MFS Tools 3.2

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  1. jmbach

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  4. njweb

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    Hopefully someone can figure out what is going on. Having issues booting off the USB version of MFSTools.
    Ironically my oldest computer boots off it! The two newer ones do not...

    Background and purpose:
    My laptops do not have INternal DVD/CD drives, so I am trying to boot off the USB image (I followed these instructions in italics to create the image).
    "Download the USB/HDD image from my much earlier post in this thread. Then get a program called HDD Raw Copy Tool (Google it. Comes from HDD Guru site). Using 7zip unzip the USB image you downloaded until you have the raw extension. Put in your USB drive. I believe a 1 gig drive should be fine.Use HDD Raw Copy Tool to copy the file with the raw extension to the use drive. (You might have to rename the raw extension to img for the program to see it.)"

    I do not have any small (< 64 GB) flash drives around the house, so I used a 64 GB USB flash drive for above steps.
    I then did a trial run of the MFS Tools Linux image (with no USB HDDs attached) on an older Acer 18.4" mega laptop (8943G) which I have not used in years - figured this way I can let it run and still use my other two laptops (one big Predator for work use which I cannot move easily and one I use in the evenings for personal use) while the mfscopy copy runs for a long time on the older one.
    Linux booted on the above OLD Acer 8943G laptop (I saw some likely expected errors while it finished booting) and eventually stopped at the Linux cmd prompt.

    However then I decided mfscopy might run really slowly on the old one since it is USB 2.0 and my new laptop is USB 3/USB C. So I tried it on the personal use laptop (later realized it is short one USB 3 port anyway). But the same USB drive would not boot (on this Samsung Galaxy Flex).
    Tried with an Acer Predator; same result it would not boot.
    Both are Win 10 fully updated and both boot fine off Macrium Reflect 'rescue media' created on 16GB USB drives, so I know these 2 laptops both have the ability boot from USB flash drives.

    I then realized on my own that the Linux boot issue might be because it is 64GB and hence ExFat (but then why did the same 64GB USB drive boot MFSTools on the old Acer? all 3 laptops are Windows OS)...
    Anyway, to get the drive to FAT32, I used SD Card Formatter to clear the flash drive and then as the 2nd format step I used guiformat.exe to force format it to FAT32 since Win 10 does not support FAT32 on 64GB drives (I had successfully used this format approach for my Linux-based emulator SD card and it worked flawlessly for that).
    But even after formatting the 64GB flash drive as FAT32 and rerunning the HDD Raw Copy, the USB drive still would not boot off the Galaxy Flex. In fact I do not even see a USB boot option in the Galaxy Flex BIOS (puzzling since the SAME laptop boots off my USB rescue media just fine). I turned off Secure boot and Fast Boot. (Third option is USB/PEX which is off by default).

    I also tried a new flash drive (also 64GB unfort) and had the same problems), so the drive itself is not at fault.

    Questions:
    • Any other ideas why the 64GB FAT32 flash drive with MFSTools image is not booting on both of my newer Windows 10 laptops? The ame drive boots fine into MFS Tools on older laptop to boot into MFS Tools, [even as ExFAT] so the image is fine. The old laptop might also be on Windows 10 like the other 2 laptops (will have to check later).
    • Also odd that the Galaxy Flex (American Megatrends) BIOS does not show any USB boot options. As noted above, tt does boot Macrium rescue media fine off 16GB flash drives. Any reason the option would not show even after disabling both 'Secure' Boot and 'Fast Boot'?
    • Side question (on the 1 laptop where MFSTools did boot) - the umount command (in bold) gave a syntax error? umount -f -a -r

    Update / edit:
    The good news, is the Predator worked fine with MFS Tools once I changed from UEFI to Legacy boot in BIOS.
    The bad news, is that the big laptop hooked up to my dual monitors etc. for work.
    Still cannot get the USB drive to boot the Galaxy Flex laptop, which is the one I was hoping to run MFS Tools on.
    There is no boot option for USB drive on that laptop in BIOS; the only option is 'Windows Boot Manager'.
     
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  5. jmbach

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    Although I tried to make the image boot UEFI, it does not do that very well.

    On your laptop that it does not boot off of, does it have an option to disable secure boot? I'll see if I can Google the bios options of that laptop.

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  6. jmbach

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    Not a lot that i can find right now. If you press the F2 key to get into the BIOS, can you post some screenshots of the BIOS screens?

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  7. njweb

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    Thanks.
    On the one that it does not boot off (Galaxy Book Flex laptop with dedicated nVidia graphics - Korean version graphics option which is not available on US version), I had already tried booting with both 'Secure Boot' and 'Fast Boot' options simultaneously disabled, but that did not help.
    There is one more option called ' USB LAN PXE OPROM' on that BIOS screen (see attached photo)... Tried with it changed to 'On'; did not help. :(
    If I can get it working on this laptop, that would be perfect.
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    Also on the Predator laptop, it boots off the same USB drive with MFS Tools image, but after a little while it gets stuck on / after the following step (see attached screen):
    "new full speed usb device number 3 using xhci_........" (<< which I think is my flash drive).
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    Ironically my oldest laptop works best of the 3 laptops with this image - despite that version being ExFAT, it gets to the command prompt after loading MFS Tools / Linuex image, but the umount command fails with a syntax error.
    umount -f -a -r
    Is there a way to exit MFS Tools / end session gracefully (to avoid HDD corruption) after I finish running all the mfs commands?
     

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  8. jmbach

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    If you disable secure boot and fast boot then press F10 on startup, dobson get a boot screen with legacy option?

    On the Predator, are there any other USB devices attached to include Bluetooth devices. If there are disconnect them on boot up.

    Try "shutdown now" command.

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    Thanks.

    On the Flex, using F10 there is no option for Legacy, even when Secure Boot and Fast Boot are Off / Disabled.

    On the Predator, there are no devices attached except the flash drive with MFS Tools image. I just burned it using Balena Etcher this time (brother suggested it), but (like with Guru's HDD raw copy tool) it still gets stuck while starting up Linux - now at a different point though, some Vesa VGA related command line (see attached screenshot).
    To shut down when it is hanging, I guess I have to power down laptop by holding the power button, since ctrl-alt-delete will keep trying to boot the flash drive.
    Predator hanging with Balena Etcher MFS Tools.jpg
     
  10. njweb

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    Sorry missed the above message. Thanks.
    Ironically I already attached one screenshot of the Flex BIOS.

    Attached a bunch of photos from Flex (the one that won't boot from non UEFI - seems many newer laptops do not by design, brother's new laptop also does not).

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  11. jmbach

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    What is in the boot priority section of the boot menu?

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    The boot priority dropdown just shows 'Windows Boot Manager' (no other options, just one 'choice' of Windows Boot Manager).
    So it looks like the Flex only supports UEFI boot devices. :( (It does boot off a USB flash drive with Macrium Reflect rescue media on it).
     
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  13. njweb

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    Oh well.
    I am probably just going to use the old Acer 8943 laptop for this since it works fine with the MFSTools 3.32 USB drive (no errors on boot up to Linux login as a test run - see attached photo, no external HDDs were attached); too bad it is USB 2.0 though - with USB 2.0 it will take forever to copy the recordings from almost full 3 TB Roamio HDD to the new 8TB HDD...

    I assume I can run mfscopy with the new 8 TB HDD attached to laptop while still in the external HDD enclosure? (I will shuck it after completing the mfscopy and mfsaddfix).



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  14. jmbach

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    Maybe. Depends if it does encryption or not. As long as it not encrypted when it writes, it will be fine.

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    Starting my next copy: 3TB to 10TB. Will do it the same way you taught me and keep you posted.
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  16. njweb

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    Thanks.
    Okay, let me play it safe then - I will shuck it first and then hook it up using my UGreen SATA to USB adapter before running the mfscopy...
     
  17. njweb

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    Update:
    Shucked the 8TB WD Easystore easily enough.
    Plugged in my UGreen SATA-to-USB adapters for both TiVO drives (current 3TB drive with my recordings and new destination 8TB shucked WD Easystore HDD).
    Both drives detected fine. Screenshot attached.

    So glad I kept this old Acer 8943 laptop!!! The battery may have little life left in case of a power outage, but hopefully we will not have any major power outages during the snowstorm tomorrow...

    Now time to run mfscopy and let it run and then the mfsaddfix twice.

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    Fingers crossed...

    Update: The mfscopy is running now. :)
    Darn slow 2.0 USB speeds though (which is why I wanted to run it on one of the faster USB 3.0 laptops).
    Anyway, so long as we have no power outage tomorrow, I'll be happy.

    Dumb question:
    In case I were to I decide the speed on USB 2.0 is just too slow for me (based on % complete by the time I wake up tomorrow) and want to use the Galaxy Flex for work and use the much faster USB 3.0 Predator for MFSTools mfscopy (assuming I can get that VGA...VESA... error to be ignored; I would hook up 1 of my external monitors etc. to the Flex temporarily for work purposes):
    Can I safely interrupt the mfscopy midstream (like an old fashioned CTRL-break?), followed by a 'shutdown now' command and reformat the 8TB and then start the mfscopy over?
     
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  18. gsutkin

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    The new WD102PURZ checked out on an extended wrote/read test. Before running mfscopy, I had to do a bootsectorfix. Now we are copying from the 3TB to the 10TB
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  19. jmbach

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    Not dumb. The answer is yes.


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    Thanks! In case of a power outage tonight (even for a split second would shut down the laptop / drives since my UPS battery backup is dead) during the snowstorm event, I may try the USB 3.0 Predator laptop again, rather than wait another 50 hours after restarting!
    However the Predator gave the error during MFSTools drive bootup on / or right after the 'VESA VGA' line I posted a few days ago, so I would need to try to figure out why (had nothing plugged in other than the USB flash drive with MFSTools).
    Not sure if I tried the Balena Etcher burned flash drive on that laptop though... Using the Predator for work (but can use the Flex for work if necessary).

    So far (on the old Acer 8943G) the mfscopy is at about 20% complete and right on track to complete by Friday early AM (just after midnight). ~50 hours total.
    My screen keeps going off (screen saver), so I use the up arrow key to 'wake' the laptop to check mfscopy progress periodically...

    I got some help regarding the VGA / VESA error when booting MFSTools on the faster Predator (so I can use that laptop after if a power outage occurs or if I get impatient with the long and want to kill the mfscopy on the slow (in terms of having only USB 2.0 I mean) 8943G laptop and start mfscopy over on this USB 3.0 Predator):

    "The vesa error is because you have an nvidia gpu.
    You need to modify GRUB on bootup of the USB and add kernel boot parameter nouveau.modeset=0 which disables the driver from trying to load.
    To temporarily add a boot parameter to a kernel:

    1. Start your system and wait for the GRUB menu to show (if you don't see a GRUB menu, press and hold the left Shift key right after starting the system).
    2. Now highlight the kernel you want to use, and press the e key. You should be able to see and edit the commands associated with the highlighted kernel.
    3. Go down to the line starting with "linux" and add parameter nouveau.modeset=0 to the end of the line
    4. Now press Ctrl + x to boot."
     
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