MFS Tools 3.2

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  1. jmbach

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    I am not sure about that hard drive. Mainly because many of the portable hard drives with an external USB 3.0 connector, the connector is actually part of the motherboard of the hard drive and not an adapter card.

    To find out what interface you are on, fo to the system information screen and scroll all the way to the bottom of the screen. You will see a listing for the HD me u software version. If it says hydra-mira it is TE4. If it states encore it is TE3.

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  2. Comicboy

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    Its TE4 for sure.
     
  3. jmbach

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    So I can confirm that a Bolt on TE4 21.9.7v10 can self format drives as large as 10 TB.
    Unfortunately, MFSTools at this time cannot create a native partition layout of that size. It can do it for a drive that is over 4 TB, but I am not sure how large at this time without further testing. Also it will not at this time convert a drive that was expanded using the lowered numbered partitions to a native partition layout.
     
  4. Comicboy

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    Can I make my 4TB operate as a 3TB, leaving the extra 1TB out there? I don't care about losing part of the use of it. I mainly want to copy my existing shows over before the drive dies..
    And if the 3TB drive is dead dead, sound like I can out the And I am really new to this. I have read and am about to go through pages of instruction looking for the exact instruction to:
    1) Backup a 3TB
    2) restore a 3TB (maybe restore to a 4TB)
    3) or copy from 3TB to 4TB (although I think you said that won't work)
    4) alternatively copy from a 3TB to 4TB only partitioning 3TB..
     
  5. jmbach

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    You can use mfscopy to copy your current drive to your 4TB drive and have the full 4TB for recordings.

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  6. Comicboy

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    I understand that, can you tell me the exact syntax
     
  7. jmbach

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    It is in the post where you downloaded the program.

    mfscopy -a source target

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  8. tivodude007

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    I have a recently purchased (past year) Bolt Vox with 500GB hard drive. I have purchased a cloning usb drop in ext USB dual drive to get a perfect clone. I now read that the cloning won't work because MFSTools or some other program fixes a sabotage by the Bolt which looks to see if the drive is the same drive that last booted. The message in the thread indicated a perfect result so I jumped on the Inateck Cloning USB drop in and a 2TB SSD which I thought would solve the issue with CMR/SMR. The SSD tried to boot with the HDD led flickering a few times, then it stopped flickering. The TV screen says Starting Up. I has yet to complete the boot process. I read after installing the SSD into the Bolt, that it will trash all my recordings because I inserted the new drive into it. I guess the old/original drive will not work now? I am in the process of buying a 1TB 2.5 WD Red (CMR) HDD so my incompatibilities will go away. The WD site did not show any 2.5 HDDs that were CMR so I bought the 1TB. There is lots of confusion in the newbies myself included, on what works and what doesn't. I bought the 1TB to avoid the CMR and potential to not work due to size above 1TB. Does the Cloning Process work at all for the Bolt? I am thinking that I need MFSTools to do the job. Could someone PM me the program?
     
  9. jmbach

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    Where to start.

    Since you cloned the original drive to your ssd and it was stuck in the starting screen, put your old drive back in for now. All your old recordings should be just fine. The only time you lose access to your recordings is if the Bolt formats a drive. We are not sure why the Bolt on TE4 stalls on boot with some drives.

    You can use mfscopy in MFSTools to copy your original drive up to 4TB without an issue. Although the Bolt on the latest TE4 can use any drive size (tested up to 14TB) MFSTools cannot directly copy to that size as of yet. You can build a drive that big with MFSTools but you can simply use the copy command. That is something I hope to fix at some time.

    The clone of your original drive will have the exact same recording space of the original drive. You can build it out to use the whole drive for recording space.

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  10. C Hakkarinen

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    TE3 (Tivo Experience 3) and TE4 (Tivo Experience 4) are two different visual menu formats that can be installed on Roamios, Bolts and perhaps newer models. TE4 (aka "hydra") is considered to be an "upgrade" to TE3, but some (many?) owners of Bolts that were initially supplied with TE4 have chosen to "downgrade" to the menu format TE3. There are instructions on how to do this in another forum. The instructions on page 1 of that thread worked for me.
     
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    tivodude007

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    Can you PM me the MFSTools to use to copy/clone the original drive to a new drive. I bought a WD-Red 1TB because I could not find a WD 2TB CMR drive. Do you know who builds a good 2-3TB CMR drive that can be used in a Bolt?
     
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    jmbach

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    Are you wanting to compile the code yourself or are you looking for an ISO.

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    tivodude007

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    tivodude007

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    I am trying to copy and expand my 500gb to 1TB WD Red and I find the command interface to be more than a little daunting. I can handle the GUI apps like DV-Bars? and would like to get something that is easier to use if possible. I am getting error about no such file or directory. I am using my NUC with Win10 to load the thumb drive with the 3.32 iso file set up to boot from the TD. I typed the command in exactly as shown above and still get the errors. I don't see how MFSTools could figure out the proper device since that could be different depending on the computer I am using with various HDD configurations. Is JMFS a GUI program?
     
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    jmbach

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    You have to identify the drives first using the lsblk command. Then use the mfscopy command to copy one to the other.

    Can you post a picture of the error you are getting

    JMFS is used on Premiere units only and is more of a hand held process.

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    tivodude007

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    I was concerned about which drive is /dev/sda and sdb. Did you start with only the two tivo drives? What about the ThumbDrive? Wouldn 't it be sda? I am used to having a GUI and this is a lot tougher than past upgrades that I have done. MFSAdd will expand also 1TB to 2TB or 4TB?
     
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    jmbach

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    The lsblk command will help you identify the different drives that are attached.

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  18. cardinals41

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    Tried to copy a 2TB Premiere drive to a 3TB drive with MFSTools 3.3. It did not work. Used JMFS 1.04 to copy the drive and shows. Is it possible to expand the drive for 3 TB?
     
  19. jmbach

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    What errors were you getting with MFSTools.

    JMFS 1.04 has a size limitation. So I cannot remember how large of a drive you can expand. If you search well enough, there is a patched version (1.05) that fixes that issue and should work for your 3 TB drive. That is assuming the 2TB drive has not already been expanded. With JMFS, you get only one expansion.

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  20. cardinals41

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    Can MFSTools be used now to expand? The error message I received was error reading voume header.
     

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