MFS Tools 3.2

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  1. Dec 4, 2019 #1401 of 1597
    dougdingle

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    Up to 4 TB, yes. I've done this successfully half a dozen times, at least. The new drive will have everything the old one did and should boot right up. BE SURE you don't accidentally swap drive assignments and wind up copying the new empty drive to the old full one (although I think there are some safeguards built into mfscopy to prevent that, but be careful anyway).
     
  2. Dec 5, 2019 #1402 of 1597
    ggieseke

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    Yes, up to 4TB.
     
  3. richsadams

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    Well, tried upgrading our TiVo Premiere XL4 to the WD Red 4TB drive today and it looks like I've fowled it up, I used MFSTools 3.32 to copy just the info over using the "mfscopy -i /dev/sdX /dev/sdY" where "sdX" is the original 2TB drive and "sdY" is the new 4TB drive. I double, triple and quadruple checked to be sure I had the correct drive letters before proceeding.

    Everything appeared to go well with "Copy done!" and a return to the Linux command prompt as the last entry. However when I installed the new 4TB drive the Premiere goes into a loop: Welcome... starting up screen, then blank, all front lights illuminate then go out and back to the welcome screen, repeat.

    There were several error lines before it completed as seen in the attached images. (It took so long - over an hour - due to having to use a dual USB dock rather than direct SATA connections.)

    Welcome any thoughts.

    TIA!

    P.S. I ran a disk health check on the new HDD which wrote content. Should I have prepared the drive for copy (if so, how? dd?) or does MFSTools automatically wipe existing data?

    EDIT: Initially I thought I'd done something to the original 2TB drive but after waiting a while I plugged TiVo back in and it's working normally. Phew!

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  4. ThAbtO

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    I think it should be -ai not -i?
     
  5. richsadams

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    Thanks for the speedy reply! I was only wanting to copy the essentials including cableCARD pairing and expand the drive to use the whole drive space for recordings. I didn't want to copy any existing recordings.
     
  6. richsadams

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    Looks like there's something wrong with the WD Red HDD so I'm going to go ahead and get a replacement. I'll post back with results.

    Thanks!
     
  7. jmbach

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    What drive was /dev/sdb? The source or the target?

    The other issue could be the dock itself. If it is too old, it may not support drives 4TB in size.
     
  8. richsadams

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    In those screenshots "/dev/sdb" was the target drive. It's on it's way back to Amazon as we speak. Hopefully it's crossing paths with its replacement.

    I was using a Unitek USB 3.0 dual dock that's about a year or so old. I also tried the same thing with separate docks, the Unitek and a Voyager USB 3.0 single dock with about the same results. (The HP PC has USB 2.0 ports.)

    Going forward I've set up the HP all-in-one PC with two dedicated SATA HDD connections. I was also able to get it to boot JMFS without any issues now. So when the new WD Red arrives I think I'll use that to follow the path of least resistance to ideally get everything running as intended.

    Thanks so much for the support, enjoy the holidays and I'll keep you posted!
     
  9. jmbach

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    You will need JMFS "1.05" as the original JMFS has a 32 bit limitation on expansion and depending on how the numbers land may not expand or give you full expansion.

    MFSTools expansion is cleaner overall.
     
  10. richsadams

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    Ah, got it. MFSTools will be the plan then.

    So if I go ahead and and use the “mfscopy -ai /dev/sdX /dev/sdY” command, that should copy recordings, etc. as well as expand the new drive?

    TIA!
     
  11. jmbach

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    That would do it

    Also before I put a drive in a TiVo, I will do a full read followed by a full write and then a full read. Then I check smart status of the drive.
     
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  12. richsadams

    richsadams Well-Known Member

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    Thanks and I will certainly test the new drive out as well. :up:
     
  13. Wojo2019

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    Hello forum members. Sorry for the newb question but my Tivo Bolt+ 3TB died this morning. I tested the drive and it has bad sectors. I currently have a spare 1TB drive. I can also pick up a 4TB drive tomorrow at Best Buy. UHHGG.. Definitely not looking forward to that experience. Can someone direct me to the basic steps to install a new drive? Again, sorry for the newb question but I'm out of time and need to have this running by tomorrow late morning. I've looked but I'm starting to go crosseyed reading through everything regarding so many different steps for some AWESOME upgrades which I will definitely play with after the holiday's but right now I just need to get a drive installed and my Bolt running for the holidays.

    Can I use the 1TB to get me through the holidays?
    Should I just brave the madness of Best Buy tomorrow and grab a 4TB?

    Thanks for your help. Great forum.
     
  14. jmbach

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    You can drop up to a 3 TB into the Bolt and it will auto format the drive. Use the 1 TB for now. You can use MFSTools to upgrade later.

    The bigger question is what version of the interface the Bolt was running before it went down. TE3 and any drive will work. TE4 is very particular on what drive will work. If it does not work, you will be stuck on a starting up screen.


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  15. Itsme22333

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    Can anyone tell me what the current known drive size limits are for copies to a new drive. I have a TIVO premiere that I upgraded to a 6 TB drive a few years ago. I'd like to upgrade again. I just saw a good deal on a 14TB WD hard disk. I want to be able to keep my current recordings. I read through the first few pages of this thread and the last several pages but I did not see a good answer for this question.
     
  16. jmbach

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    Max on a Premiere is 8 TB internal.
     
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  17. Wojo2019

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    Thank you so much jmbach... Didn't think it was that easy.. Installed the drive and things are updating now. Just out of curiosity should it be taking over an hour to update everything? Is this like the initial setup when you get a new Tivo? It's also stuck at 89% on acquiring channel information for over an hour.

    I was on TE3 when this happened. I honestly hate the new interface. I do like some of the features but the GUI sucks and they destroyed the guide. It's just like every other cable box now. View an hour and half at a time.
     
  18. Itsme22333

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    Thanks. We also have a Roamio downstairs. It has 4TB and is about half full. We could upgrade the HD in it, and then transfer archival things from the premiere to the Roamio (assuming that they are not copy protected) and free up space on the Premiere that way. Is 8TB also the max for the Roamio, or is it higher?
     
  19. jmbach

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    Roamio can go higher. With current tools, 10 TB. With future tools higher. Currently have mine at 12 TB but could go to 16 TB.
     
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  20. Itsme22333

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    Does the way that the drive was previously upgraded have an impact on the ultimate size that it can be expanded to? Looking through these threads it looks like it does, but I'm not sure.
     

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