MFS Tools 3.2

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  1. SOGLAD

    SOGLAD Thank You ALL !

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    Thank you for your reply!

    I didn't realize DvrBARS could not do it alone? Hummm... My DvrBARS "Backup" is saved and it appears that part was good? I think I tried something similar but my saved DvrBARS 'backup' was in a different format that MFSTools could not recognize?

    Your reply is very inspiring and I will try your approach in the AM... Again, THANK YOU!

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  2. SOGLAD

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    OH WOW! So it IS a 2 TB drive, but I was willing to settle for whatever I could get! Honestly, I've spent so many hours on this project that my eyes are blurred. Thank you for reminding me... I am seeing a light at the end of this tunnel...

    SOGLAD
     
  3. jmbach

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    I would recommend that after you restore your backup to the intermediate drive, that you let it boot in the TiVo once to make sure it connects to the TiVo servers before you copy it to your final drive.

    However, if your original drive is fully functional and the drive has no defects, you could copy the original drive to your final drive and skip the intermediate drive.

    I do recommend that you run WD diagnostic on your final drive (both a full read and write) to make sure any flakey sectors are remapped before you copy anything to it.
     
  4. SOGLAD

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    jmbach... "run WD diagnostic " is a very good idea and I don't mind investing the extra time now. The original drive appears to be just fine with no apparent errors... it's just that the 'playground' is too small (he said with a sad smile).

    I did comment that the 'new' 2TB WD does boot, update and record OK too ~ it's just "missing" a whole bunch of media. It sure was EXCITING until I saw the TiVo Specs screen.
    Now since this 2TB has been installed with data and updates (etc)... can "it" be considered my "intermediate drive"? I do have the original Truncated Hard Drive data salted away elsewhere (fyi).

    SOGLAD
     
  5. SOGLAD

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  6. ThAbtO

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    Didn't you notice my reply to use MFSTools or WinMFS to expand (MFSAdd?) You would not need to start over again.
     
  7. jmbach

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    Yes it can
     
  8. jmbach

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    The advantage of using mfscopy to copy the drive to a larger drive rather than use mfsadd is that the swap space is enlarged as well.
     
  9. SOGLAD

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    YES, indeed I did read it and I did see and use the WinMFS option to "expand", but WinMFS appears to get "lost" and (apparently) never completed that part of the procedure? I left WinMFS running all night and in the AM I got a message (similar to) 'are your sure you want to quit now'?

    I had no idea how long a 2TB drive would take to 'expand' so I did quit and got the disappointing results. And again, this was many hours after the my original expand request.

    Thank you Team for your replies... I greatly appreciate your help and insight!

    SOGLAD
     
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  10. ggieseke

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    If you have any experience with virtualization software like VMware or VirtualBox you could create a virtual machine that uses your DvrBARS backup file as the source drive, the new 2TB drive as the destination drive, and the MFS Tools .ISO file as the CD boot drive. Then the mfscopy command in MFS Tools should be able to copy & expand it in one step.

    DvrBARS uses the Microsoft VHD file format for several reasons, and one of them is that most virtualization software understands it. I also just like sticking to published standards in case it comes in handy someday, which it has. I've even used it in the Full Backup (dumb) mode to backup Windows drives.
     
  11. SOGLAD

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    FANTASTIC! I will checkout both VMware and VirtualBox later today after some Sunday family obligations and traditions. Hopefully YOUTUBE has a few how to's to offer? I'll check that out first!

    I THANK YOU all, thank you for the life-rings!

    SOGLAD
     
  12. M Willis

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    I'm having a tough time finding the MFS Tools 3.2 iso download. Did it get pulled from SourceForge? Can't seem to find a downloadable .iso file anywhere. I'm finally getting around to upgrading my Roamio with a new drive and wanted to copy my old drive to the new 3TB while it's still good but it's been *years*. Last version I have is MFS Tools 2.0 and the WinMFS both of which I know won't work. Thanks!
     
  13. ggieseke

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    MFS Tools 3.2
     
  14. Dec 4, 2019 #1394 of 1997
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    It's been a decade or more since the last time I upgraded a TiVo (anybody familiar with the DirecTV+TiVo aka Sony T60?) I bought a refurbished Tivo Roamio Plus (OTA/1TB) last year and decided to upgrade. When I got the "Copy source: Can not determine primary boot partition from boot sector" error I ended up here.

    My first few bytes were identical to what TheCryptkeeper reported in post #720:

    linux:/tmp # dd if=/dev/sda of=a bs=512 count=1
    1+0 records in
    1+0 records out
    512 bytes copied, 4.811e-05 s, 10.6 MB/s
    linux:/tmp # od -t x1 a
    0000000 92 14 00 00 00 6f 6f 74 3d 2f 64 65 76 2f 73 64​

    My os of choice is FreeBSD so I built/installed hexedit and patched 3 bytes (03, 06, and 'r') ending up with:

    linux:/tmp # od -t x1 a
    0000000 92 14 03 06 72 6f 6f 74 3d 2f 64 65 76 2f 73 64​

    I wrote block zero back to the drive:

    linux:/tmp # dd if=a.new of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1
    1+0 records in
    1+0 records out
    512 bytes copied, 0.000360646 s, 1.4 MB/s​

    and was able to start mfscopy. I used -ai but I suspect -i is a noop for the Roamio. Also I've never attached an external drive so I suspect the zero'ed bytes are an artifact of the series 5?

    Thanks for all the good info!
     
  15. Dec 4, 2019 #1395 of 1997
    leres

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  16. Dec 4, 2019 #1396 of 1997
    RGrizzzz

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    Where can I find some directions for these tools? Trying to upgrade my Roamio from the stock drive to a 3TB WD Red, and keep my recordings/OnePass settings? I have the CD-R ready to go and it's bootable. Just need some directions for a beginner! This thread is long, and haven't had great luck searching for clear directions.

    1. Pull drive from TiVo
    2. Connect old and new drive to PC
    3. Boot MSF Tools CD-R
    4. Clone drive - HOW?!?!?!
    5. Anything else?
    6. Put new drive in TiVo
    7. WIN!
     
  17. Dec 4, 2019 #1397 of 1997
    jmbach

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    For what you want to do, the instructions found in the post that contains the ISO is all you need.
     
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  18. Dec 4, 2019 #1398 of 1997
    RGrizzzz

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    The first few posts in this thread show commands, but not clear directions for copying to a large drive. (Or how to mount/address drives) Can someone give me a quick idea on what I need to do? Or a link to a clear example, that I can't seem to find. Thanks!
     
  19. Dec 4, 2019 #1399 of 1997
    dougdingle

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    Connect source and destination drives to your computer.
    Power up while booting from the MFSTools .ISO
    -Login: root
    -Password: tivo
    -parted -l (lower case L) shows drive assignments as sda, sdb, sdc, etc. Carefully note which is assigned to your source and destination drives.
    -copy with shows/expand to bigger dive: mfscopy -ai /dev/sda /dev/sdb
    -copy, no shows: mfscopy -s /dev/sda /dev/sdb

    where sda is the source drive, and sdb is the destination (new) drive.

    sda and sdb are assigned by your BIOS at boot. So the source drive can be, say, sdf and the destination sdc. Write down the actual assignment by looking at the screen output from parted -l, then use those for sda and sdb in the command line.
     
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  20. Dec 4, 2019 #1400 of 1997
    RGrizzzz

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    Thanks! MSFcopy handles the consideration of the bigger drive?
     
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