MFS Tools 3.2

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  1. multiple

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    Is using dd under MFStools sufficient for doing this? I don’t have a docking station that dupes and I don’t think I have any software apps that can do this. I’ll have to do some research.
     
  2. jmbach

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    dd will work just fine.
     
  3. brichter

    brichter New Member

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    So, I have followed a few threads in this topic (no time to read all 1342 posts), and searched, but can't find an answer to my question:

    I have a failed 2TB drive out of my Tivo Premiere, it lasted 6 years so I guess that was pretty good. I already cloned, expanded, and supersized a new 2TB drive from the original 320GB drive which only spent <1 hour in the Tivo before the 2TB upgrade to get the Tivo up and running, but the old drive contains many recordings I'd rather not lose.

    I made a dd copy of the failed Tivo drive (dd [if=failed drive] [of=new drive] conv=sync,noerror), and this new drive won't boot, all lights except power are blinking. Not sure if the OS partition is hosed or some other issue. Is there a way to use the new mfstools to verify the recordings are still intact, and if so, copy just the OS partition to the drive I copied with dd? Or maybe copy the media to the new 2TB drive already up and running in the Tivo? Or is the better route to use ddrescue and pray to the Tivo gods for a miracle?

    Thanks in advance for all the great info here!
     
  4. ThAbtO

    ThAbtO TiVoholic by the bay TCF Club

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    Since the drive failed, all your precious recordings are toast. You would need to start over with a new image.
    You could have saved those (not copy-protected) shows while the drive still worked by transferring to the computer with KMTTG/PyTivo,
     
  5. JimWall

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    Did you use DD or DD_rescue to copy "bad" drive to a new one?
    If DD worked I would think drive is not dead.
    I have replaced "bad" drives that won't boot using
    dd_rescue -A -v -b 128M /dev/sda /dev/sdb
    It will tell you error rate, amount rescued. If none then "bad" drive is good.
    If drive not bad or new drive doesn't work then maybe you have a power supply issue. Check to see if any capacitors are bulging.
     
  6. brichter

    brichter New Member

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    No bulging capacitors.
    2TB drive I removed from the Tivo won't boot the Tivo.
    2TB drive I cloned from the removed drive using dd will not boot the Tivo.
    New drive imaged from the original 320GB drive will boot the Tivo.
    Original 320GB drive will boot the Tivo.


    Pretty sure given the above data points the issue is drive-related. As per my post, I used dd with conv=sync,noerror, which will replace the missing input data caused by errors on the source drive with NUL bytes on the destination drive. I used dd with these switches to ensure I preserved as much data as possible from the failed drive, since I knew the failed drive will only get worse as it continues to be read.

    Is there a way to use the new mfstools to verify the recordings are still intact, and if so, copy just the OS partition to the drive I copied with dd? Or maybe copy the media to the new 2TB drive already up and running in the Tivo? Or is the better route to use ddrescue and pray to the Tivo gods for a miracle?
     
  7. JimWall

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    If you used old dd then try dd_rescue.

    You can also try to copy recordings with
    Usage: ./mfscopy [options] SourceA[:SourceB] DestA[:DestB]
    mfscopy -ai /dev/sda:/dev/sdb /dev/sdc
    If it fails with read errors then I use dd_rescue
    Better at handling bad sectors than dd
     
  8. brichter

    brichter New Member

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    Thanks, I'll give that a try.
     
  9. barnabas1969

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    Are you saying that MFSTools can be used to make a large (4TB) drive work with the eSATA port on the Bolt? Or, are you referring to the mod where one must cut a hole in the Bolt and plug the external drive into the internal SATA port?

    If I can make a 3.5" 4TB external drive work with the eSATA port, I prefer to go that route. If MFSTools can do this, what is the command syntax for that? I read through a bunch of this thread starting at 9/2/2017, but I couldn't find any reference to doing this.

    Thanks.
     
  10. mattack

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    I don't know the answer BUT unless something has changed (and I don't think it has), if you have two drives and ONE drive goes bad, you end up losing shows on BOTH drives. So it's not like an external drive as 'extra' storage on a computer.
     
  11. jmbach

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    You can use MFSTools to add an external drive to a Bolt. By an external drive is one that is attached to the eSata port of the Bolt. Now if the external drive ever goes bad, you will lose all the shows recorded after the date you attached it to your Bolt.
     
  12. barnabas1969

    barnabas1969 Active Member

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    I'm willing to take that risk. What is the command syntax to do this?
     
  13. barnabas1969

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    It's kind of muddy. There are some terms for the first year, and different terms for the second year.

    But, I don't want to deviate from my main question in this thread.

    My main question is... How can I use MFSTools to attach a 4TB external drive to the eSATA port on a Tivo Bolt?
     
  14. barnabas1969

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    BTW, you replied to those posts before I deleted them. I decided to delete them because I didn't want to confuse anyone.

    I bought the Bolt with a 24 month plan because I don't trust that the hardware will last a full 24 months. The 24 month plan gives me reassurance that Tivo will fix the hardware if it fails within the 24 month period.

    Thus, I don't want to drill holes in the thing before the 24 months have passed. And, so, I would like an option to connect an external 4TB drive via the eSATA port on the back of the Bolt.
     
  15. barnabas1969

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    I have read more pages of this thread than I wanted to.

    I will wait for jmbach to respond to this post: MFS Tools 3.2

    I only want to know the syntax that will cause MFSTools to allow me to connect a 4TB external HDD to my Bolt. Period.
     
  16. barnabas1969

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    If you can tell me how to make a 4TB external eSATA drive work with a 1TB Bolt VOX, I will happily donate money to you.
     
  17. barnabas1969

    barnabas1969 Active Member

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    I understand that eSATA on a Tivo (and every MSO DVR) does not work like an eSATA port on a PC.

    Please refer to my post above, which references a post from jmbach.

    I am waiting for a response from jmbach.

    Posts from other people are NOT helpful.
     
  18. jmbach

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    You will have to remove the internal drive from the TiVo and attach it to to your computer along with the drive you are going to use for the external drive. The command would be mfsadd -xfm 2040 /dev/sdX /dev/sdY where sdX is the name of the internal drive and sdY is the name of the external drive. (ie sda, sdb, sdc, sdd, ...)
     
  19. barnabas1969

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    Please refer to this post...

    MFS Tools 3.2

    I am waiting for jmbach to respond.
     
  20. barnabas1969

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    Thank you so much!

    If I get this working, I will be happy to donate to you. Do you have a "donate" link?
     

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