MFS Tools 3.2

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  1. Jul 9, 2015 #101 of 1704
    ThAbtO

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    DVRBars is a Windows program which backups and restores a TiVo drive. The new intended TiVo drive needs to be unformatted, not even touched by Windows drive manager.
     
  2. Jul 9, 2015 #102 of 1704
    jmbach

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    Yes to all (including DvrBARS) except for MFSR as long at it is the target drive. MSFR needs to see a valid Roamio drive in order for it to work.

    Main caveat: I can use Linux but I am no expert.
    You will have to compile and install the program from source at this time. Once that is done, typing the program name at the prompt will work.

    That being said here are some brief examples.

    There are more than one way to do things but I am choosing one way for simplicity. For instance to copy from a TiVo source drive (dev/sda) to a target drive (/dev/sdb) along with all the recordings and alternate partitions you could type :

    mfstool copy -ai /dev/sda /dev/sdb

    If you wanted help on the command:

    mfstool copy -h

    To get MFS information on the drives:

    mfstool info /dev/sda

    On your system the drives might not be labeled sda or sdb depending on how many drives are in your system so be careful. You can run a command that can help you identify the drives if running mfstool info command does not help. That is:

    fdisk -l

    This lists the drives along with other information about the drives. For TiVo drives it will not list any partitions and tell you it has no valid partition tables. I use this to help identify my TiVo drive by the drive size and by not having a valid partition table.

    To avoid a lot of issues, run these programs as admin (root). Hopefully when an ISO comes out, it will default you to root.
     
  3. Jul 10, 2015 #103 of 1704
    NYHeel

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    So my 3 TB drive in my Roamio Plus is getting a bit full and I was thinking of upgrading to a larger drive (probably 4 TB) but need the ability to maintain my recordings (and preferably settings/cable card info as well). Is this the correct tool to use to do what I want?

    Also, while I used this once before I've forgotten everything about it. Is there a link somewhere to instructions on upgrading a 3TB drive to 4 TB?

    Lastly, I have 2 old SATA to USB 2.0 adapters in my house from about 4 years ago. Would something that old still work with this version? I'll check the model when I get home.
     
  4. Jul 10, 2015 #104 of 1704
    jmbach

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    Yes to both questions. Upgrading from 3TB to 4TB is as easy as copying from one drive to the other. Examples are 2 posts up.

    If your 3TB is almost full, plan on several days to do the copy and expand with the USB 2 adapters. I copied my 4TB that was 26% full to another 4TB with USB3 adapter and it took me 50 hours.

    One last thing, when it was done, I booted in my TiVo and now the drive stated it was 37% full. I ran a KS 57 and after it was done it was back to 26% full.
     
  5. Jul 10, 2015 #105 of 1704
    NYHeel

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    Thanks. Do you think it would be significantly faster if I used the internal SATA connections in my desktop? It looks my 3 TB drive is a SATA II drive.
     
  6. Jul 10, 2015 #106 of 1704
    mattack

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    The number will be less because they'll be in HD!
     
  7. Jul 10, 2015 #107 of 1704
    jmbach

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    Over USB2, yes significantly. USB2 theoretical speed is 480Mbps which about 1/3 SATA I speed. So SATA II is about 6x faster than USB2.
     
  8. Jul 10, 2015 #108 of 1704
    ThAbtO

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    With exception to the copy protected shows, you could copy them to a computer, an external HD connected to a computer or network, etc. If you keep them on the Tivo and the drive fails, then you can lose them without a back up to reload them. Tivo is not really meant for long term video storage (more than a couple years.)

    You can use KMTTG to download those videos and decrypt them. If ever, your Media Access Key should change, you can still load it back to the Tivo and still watch it.
     
  9. Jul 12, 2015 #109 of 1704
    videobruce

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    I've tried running this from a USB drive, but all I get is the boot screen of the Linix version that is chosen using Live USB Install V259 to load it to a USB stick. That screen only repeats a countdown over and over no matter what is chosen. (see attachments)

    1. Does this run by itself or do you need a Linux 'distro'?
    2. What USB program is recommended to prepare a USB stick to run this?
    3. Is there any kind of graphic interface or is this only command lines?

    If it is only done with command lines, where are specific, typed out lines to preform the save, copy, expand etc. from a 320GB to a 2TB drive on a 746? IOW's a step by step set of instructions to eliminate any easy to make mistakes.
    As opposed to just a list of individual commands which is of no help if you have little idea how to compose them.

    Thanks in advance.
     

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  10. Jul 12, 2015 #110 of 1704
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    Is there any way I can get a copy of the bootable iso?

    I have to try clone my 500gb drive to a 4tb today if possible.
     
  11. Jul 20, 2015 #111 of 1704
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    I am trying to clone my 2tb (expanded already) to a 4tb if possible. But I heard there is a 2.2 tb limit? Which is true?
     
  12. Jul 20, 2015 #112 of 1704
    lpwcomp

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    What model TiVo?
     
  13. Jul 20, 2015 #113 of 1704
    calvinko

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  14. Jul 20, 2015 #114 of 1704
    lpwcomp

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    Then that limit does not apply.
     
  15. Sep 6, 2015 #115 of 1704
    21364guy

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    In the next 1-2 weeks I'll be upgrading my Roamio Plus with a 2TB drive. At that time I'd very much like to copy over my existing shows (esp. copy-protected HBO ones) and season passes. Could someone give me a tip as to the sequence of MFS commands to use to accomplish this? I can figure out the device names of the attached drives, so it's really just the MFS commands and options I need to understand. Also I need to know if I can start with a bare, unformatted drive, or if I should first place it into the TiVo for initial formatting, software installation, etc.

    Lastly, based on other posts here it seems like no live ISO is available? If so what is the best way to proceed? I've got a 2008 mac pro (w/vmware fusion) and also a compact win7 box (for gaming). I could potentially install ubuntu or something like that under vmware fusion if I really need to build from source. Or is it possible to do this with a standard linux package manager (apt, rpm)?
     
  16. Sep 7, 2015 #116 of 1704
    jmbach

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    Why 2TB? You can go to 4TB with MFSTools 3.2.
    You will need to build from source.
    The command is simple. mfstool copy -a /dev/sdX /dev/sdY. The 'a' switch copies all your recorded streams.
     
  17. Sep 8, 2015 #117 of 1704
    CrashHD

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    Any chance it's going to 6TB anytime soon?

    I've got a nearly full 3TB, and facing the possibility of having to transfer off to other DVRs to go back to a 6TB afterwards (very slow).
     
  18. Sep 8, 2015 #118 of 1704
    jmbach

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    Going to 6TB in a Roamio with MFSTools 3.2 is limited to 4TB unless a major rewrite of the code is done or TiVo fixes the 2TB partition size limit.
    Best bet is support ggieseke with his MFSR utility as that could be modified to copy the recordings over to the new drive. Especially since the thought has crossed his mind to attempt this.
     
  19. Sep 9, 2015 #119 of 1704
    21364guy

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    Just wanted to confirm that I can use USB3 to connect both drives to my system when using 'mfstool copy'? In particular I'm thinking about picking up one of these to support this:

    http://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-External-Duplicator-Function-EC-HDD2/dp/B00IKC14OG

    The description says that both drives will be seen by the OS. In my case I want to go from an existing 1TB drive to a new 2TB one, and to keep my recordings and such.

    As my only PC (used just for gaming) is mini-ITX based, adding two drives internally, even temporarily, would be a bit of a nightmare. But live booting linux with MFS tools 3.2 from USB should be easy; and I can avoid recabling if USB3 will work in this situation.
     
  20. Sep 9, 2015 #120 of 1704
    CrashHD

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    Does anyone know how he or weaknees are doing it? I'm tempted to pay weaknees gouged price just to get a look at the partition table on that drive.
     

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