MFS Tools 3.2

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  1. Jan 14, 2018 #921 of 1965
    thefritz

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    I assume the answer is yes, but does MFS tools work after an upgrade to the new TiVo experience (Hydra)?
     
  2. Jan 14, 2018 #922 of 1965
    jmbach

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    I have no personal experience with Hydra yet so I cannot provide any input on that.

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  3. Jan 16, 2018 #923 of 1965
    Mahty

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    Not yet.

    I’ve verified that the block of missing high-numbered (copy-protected?) channels is common to both S3 tuners/CableCARDs. I’ve also verified that all of my cable connections are OK and that both CableCARDs are properly seated and paired. And as far as I can tell, it looks like the TiVo/CableCARD diagnostics always indicates that it successfully tunes to each of my now-missing channels, even though I get no picture or sound on the channel (-- but I do/can get the program info overlaid on the blank screen).

    Since the S3 still boots just fine, I’m in the process of off-loading to my other TiVos some of the programs I have saved on my S3. After that, I thought I would try exercising some Kickstart codes.

    My missing-block-of-channels problem is almost certainly due to the fact that I effectively clobbered some memory location(s) or broke some link(s) on the TiVo hard drive when I stupidly allowed WD’s DLGDIAG diagnostic tool to fix some bad sectors it had detected. But how to possibly recover from this situation so as to return my missing channels? If the clobbered memory is in the current boot partition (even though the S3 still boots just fine?), perhaps a Kickstart 52 can fix my issue by switching me to the other boot partition with a freshly-downloaded and -installed build. But if the clobbered memory is elsewhere, well then perhaps some other Kickstart code might be useful.

    In any case, if all of this troubleshooting fails, I always have the option of starting from scratch by using either my 10+-year-old original S3 hard drive (that I have stored somewhere) or a more recent image as the source for an mfstool copy to my new WD20EFRX.
     
  4. Jan 16, 2018 #924 of 1965
    ggieseke

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    You might try "Clear Program Info & To Do List".
     
  5. Feb 12, 2018 #925 of 1965
    angra

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    I'd like to run MFSTools on a linux server I have already running that has several open hotswap bays. Can I just grab the executables out of the ISO images, or does it require a specialized boot environment to run properly? Is the source code online somewhere? The sourceforge link appears pretty out of date, but I may be using it wrongly.
     
  6. Feb 12, 2018 #926 of 1965
    jmbach

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    You can probably just grab the executables. It based on openSUSE x64.

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  7. Feb 13, 2018 #927 of 1965
    JLV03

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    Greetings everyone! I'd like to take a moment and thank everyone in this thread for the tips, hints, and most importantly - the software!

    The other day I was finally able to copy a 320GB Premiere drive to a new WD Red 2TB. I say finally as it took a lot of trial and error on my part. The big thing I messed up was that I tried creating a bootable USB stick by taking the ISO image from jmbach's post and using a Universal USB installer (Universal USB Installer - Easy as 1 2 3 | USB Pen Drive Linux) however this resulted in MBR errors and continous rebooting. When I took the ISO image and just burned a CD my troubles went away.

    My steps.
    a) Download the ISO image from post 131
    b) Burn ISO image to a blank CD
    c) Take an old Dell Optiplex 755 computer and remove all drives except for the CD-ROM
    d) Attach old TiVo drive to the first SATA port and then new TiVo drive to the second SATA port
    e) Boot up to the CD-ROM, log into the program using "root" and "tivo"
    f) Type fdisk -l to figure out which disk is which SDx. To scroll up use Shift + Page Up buttons on your keyboard. In my case the old TiVo drive was SDA and the new drive was SDB
    g) Type in the command: mfstool copy -ai /dev/sda /dev/sdb
    h) Wait a few minutes to let the program do its thing and complete. I say only a few minutes because this was a used TiVo that was completely cleared of all shows (0% usage), so not much to copy.
    i) Type in the command mfsinfo to compare the drives.

    I have a 4TB WD Red on the way to try this all over again in a few days with a Roamio. I hope it works out just as well.
     
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  8. Feb 16, 2018 #928 of 1965
    ch421

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    I used the standalone clone function of this https://www.amazon.com/Support-Alxu...usb+3.0+to+sata+external+hard+disk+drive&th=1 external USB dock to copy a TiVo Series3 1TB WD Green to a 2TB WD Purple. The cloned 2TB WD Purple seems to be working fine in the Series3. The 1TB was full of programs and about 35 deleted programs. Everything seems to be there on the 2TB. It took about 2.5 hours for the standalone clone to complete. I tried running MFSADD on the new 2TB WD Purple to expand the storage with the dock connected to a laptop via USB. It didn't work. Can anyone confirm that MFSADD doesn't work on a drive connected via USB? MFSINFO seemed to work, at least it displayed information that seemed correct. I used MFSTOOLS booted from a CD burned from ISO image from post 131. Thanks.
     
  9. Feb 16, 2018 #929 of 1965
    jmbach

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    Can you post the MFSInfo results and what command you used with mfsadd. If might fail if there is not enough room to expand in the MFS header.

    Personally I would have used mfscopy to copy the original image to the new drive.
     
  10. Feb 16, 2018 #930 of 1965
    ch421

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    Sorry, I didn't capture the MFSInfo output. For mfsadd it didn't seem to matter what options I entered, it just came back like I had typed -h (it displayed the list Usage options/parameters).

    I believe I tried (not necessarily in this order):
    mfsadd -f -m 500 -X /dev/sdb
    mfsadd -f -m 1000 -X /dev/sdb

    I tried leaving off -f and -m, using -f but not -m, -m but not -f. I accidentally typed a -x once and that threw an error message about drive b which of course I had not entered. I know I sound like an idiot, guilty as charged. Every other attempt at mfsadd just came back displaying the list Usage options/parameters but not an error message. I was completely sober. Maybe that was the problem! I tend to use a shotgun approach.

    The Series3 is buttoned up and seems to be working. I haven't seen any screen pauses/freezing (yet) which had become common. The old drive was put in Sept 2012. The caps on the power supply look good (weakness [sic] rebuilt power supply 2012) and 3 bulging caps I replaced in 2014 (because they apparently don't replace all poor quality caps). I only replaced the 3 caps I had to because of A lack of confidence in my soldering skills of which I have none.

    Would I have been able to tweak/expand the 2TB drive if I had used mfscopy? I'm not sure I want to tempt fate by opening the thing up again. 3 of the rubber feet on the unit have flaked apart. I have it sitting on upside-down orange plastic Gatorade bottle tops. The rubber sound insulation grommets on the hard drive screws are dry and more solid than they probably should be. But all-in-all it seems more quiet now. I'll work up the courage to remove the finger from my left ear. Baby steps. Where to go from here? I'd like to tweak the 2TB into submission rather than re-copy. I guess I could play trying to take an image of the old 1TB in case it dies. This is really a bad time to be without any beer in the house.
     
  11. Feb 16, 2018 #931 of 1965
    jmbach

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    What kind of tweaking are you looking for

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  12. Feb 16, 2018 #932 of 1965
    ch421

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    You mentioned that you would have used mfscopy instead the dock standalone cloning. Does mfscopy automatically expand the target drive or adjust MFS headers or whatever on the fly (a tweak I'm missing)? Or does mfscopy simply make an exact duplicate which is essentially what I should already have by cloning the old TiVo drive using the drive dock clone function. The MfsInfo mentioned that expand could be used 3 more times on the new cloned drive before I installed it into the TiVo. For some reason I think an mfsadd would still be needed to "expand" the drive to use the additional 1TB for recordings even if had used mfscopy. Perhaps that is a misunderstanding on my part. Is it possible to telnet or otherwise connect into a Series3 and run an mfsadd right on the TiVo against the new drive? Thus tweaking it to use the extra 1TB. And finally, back to my original question, does mfsadd generally work on an usb externally connected drive dock? I think every write up I've found mentions connecting the drive internally inside a PC case. Unfortunately that isn't an option for me at the present. Thanks.
     
  13. Feb 17, 2018 #933 of 1965
    jmbach

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    The mfscopy command copies and expands at the same time. If there are multiple MFS partitions for the source image, it will rewrite the MFS structure so that it will result in two partition pairs on the target drive in a layout similar to a native TiVo image.

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  14. Feb 17, 2018 #934 of 1965
    JLV03

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    Success!

    I was able to take a 500GB Roamio and move it to a 4TB drive. The 500GB drive was about 79% full and the new 4TB, after the copy, was sitting at about 9% full. Talk about room for activities!

    To copy from one drive to the other took a bit over 2 hours. Not too bad, started the process on my lunch break and it was done and ready to roll by the time I got home from work.
     
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  15. Feb 18, 2018 #935 of 1965
    tommage1

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    Is the limitation for MFStool copy and expand still 4TB? If so is there a way to copy and expand to a larger drive (Roamio Plus, want to copy and expand a 4TB to a 5TB or maybe larger). Without backing up to computer first then copying back. How can you tell if a drive uses SMR, anything in Windows 7 that shows that or some third party software? Oh, while I'm asking questions, is the limitation on an S3 still 2TB? Which is best to copy and expand an S3 drive, MFStools or WinMFS? Thanks.
     
  16. Feb 18, 2018 #936 of 1965
    jmbach

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    Since MFSTools creates a standard TiVo layout when it copies and current TiVo OS is unable to correctly handle partitions greater than 2TB, the limit is 4TB. When TiVo OS starts handling partitions greater than 2TB correctly, the limit will no longer exist.
    Series 3 TiVos size limit remains at 2TB.
    You will need to look at the manufacturer's documentation concerning the drive to see if it is SMR or not. Lately it seems to be harder and harder to find that information.

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  17. Feb 18, 2018 #937 of 1965
    tommage1

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    Thank you very much for reply. One more question, since 4TB is the limit based on Tivo OS I may just copy my 4TB drive to another 4TB (my current 4TB is starting to have some audio dropout and tiling). Is the command the same to just copy with no expand, mfstool copy -ai /dev/sdx /dev/sdy? Current drive is almost full. Yes, the SMR data/info seems hard to find in many cases...................
     
  18. Feb 18, 2018 #938 of 1965
    jmbach

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    Yes the command is the same but it would be quicker to get a duplicating dock.

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  19. Feb 18, 2018 #939 of 1965
    tommage1

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    Hmm, I have one of those "toaster" type docks with two bays. I will have to check to see if it duplicates, thanks.
     
  20. Feb 19, 2018 #940 of 1965
    pmjc101

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    TheCryptKeeper:
    Thank you so much for sharing this! I had the same problem with my Roamio OTA 1TB HDD and was able to fix my boot sector problem with these instructions.

    I copied the drive using MFS Tools 3.2 and the following command:

    mfscopy -ai /dev/sda /dev/sdb

    This command successfully copied all of my recordings and settings from my 1TB drive to my 3 TB drive..
    It took about 7 hours to complete the process with both drives being connected internally with SATA cables

    Edit:
    This comment is in reference to the fix described in post #720
    MFS Tools 3.2
     
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