MFS Tools 3.2

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  1. May 7, 2017 #681 of 1995
    jmbach

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    You have to do the copy in one stage and then adding the expansion drive in the second stage.

    My example command will get the two drives into one drive. When that is done you boot it in your TiVo. If you get a red screen, then power cycle the TiVo and run a Kickstart 58 on boot up. It will say installing an update followed by a reboot and green screen and finally will reboot and boot normally. Once you get to that stage, we can add the 8TB drive.
     
  2. May 7, 2017 #682 of 1995
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    Great. That makes sense. I'll update you on the results. Thank you for your help.
     
  3. May 8, 2017 #683 of 1995
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    I'm not familiar with Linux, so I don't know what to do with the image file in order to get to the /usr/local/bin directory. Can you point me in the right direction? Thanks.
     
  4. May 10, 2017 #684 of 1995
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    If you are not familiar with Linux, just burn the ISO to a CD and run MFSTools off of there.
     
  5. May 10, 2017 #685 of 1995
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    I've already done this, but it won't run on a 32 bit machine.
     
  6. May 10, 2017 #686 of 1995
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    Can MFSTools 3.2 and MFSR be used together?
     
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  7. May 10, 2017 #687 of 1995
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    Good Question! :thumbsup:

    I have WD 3TB and 4TB Red HDDs waiting for the summer doldrums so that I can replace the existing 500GB HDDs in my Roamio Basic and OTA. I haven't spent much time researching 'Advanced Format' but aligning the sectors *AND* copying the existing drives *IS* something that I've been thinking about for a few months now.

    Thanks for asking the question - now let's see what the answer turns out to be...
     
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  8. May 10, 2017 #688 of 1995
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    You can use MFSTools 3.2 to add an external drive to a MFSR formatted drive.
     
  9. May 10, 2017 #689 of 1995
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    I don't believe that that is the question @TheCryptkeeper and I are asking (since he 'Liked' my post, I'm assuming...).

    What I / we would like to do is:
    1. Take a brand-new (WD ?TB Red NAS) HDD and run WD DLG diagnostics on it.
      - If it passes....
    2. Load up MFSR and 'align the sectors'.
      - once the brand-new EMPTY HDD is 'aligned'...
    3. Load up MFSTools 3.2 and copy the contents of an original (500GB) TiVo HDD (currently residing inside my Roamio Basic and OTA) onto the 'aligned' brand-new (WD ?TB Red NAS) HDD and then 'expand' the drive that TiVo will see from the current (500GB) to the full (?TB) capacity of the brand-new HDD.
      - if the copy / 'expand' operation is successful...
    4. Install the brand-new HDD into our TiVo(s) and pickup from right where we left off when the original (500GB) HDD was in there.
    I'm fairly confident that @TheCryptkeeper will either refute this or 'Like' it. :handok:
     
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  10. May 10, 2017 #690 of 1995
    TheCryptkeeper

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    I have a Roamio Basic I'd like to upgrade this way. But I also have a new 500 GB Bolt coming on Friday. After I replace the factory HD in that with a 3TB one, I'd like to run MFSR on it and then add an 8TB external drive using MFSTools 3.2.
     
  11. May 10, 2017 #691 of 1995
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    OUCH! :eek:
    • Are you *SURE* that you want to "marry" an external HDD to an internal HDD? :confused:
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    • Are you aware of the ramifications? (If *EITHER* one "craps its pants", you lose *EVERYTHING*!) :oops:
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    • How about a nice:
      • NAS running off a PC? :thumbsup:
      • External HDD running off (let's say) a Netgear router w/ ReadyNAS? :handok:
      • *ANYTHING* besides 'marrying' the HDDs. :(
    Looks like it's "Fun With Smilies" night - just trying to dissuade someone from a potential future disaster...
     
  12. May 10, 2017 #692 of 1995
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    Unfortunately that is the only answer I can give you at this time.

    To clarify the procedure you outlined.

    After you certify the drive, you begin the process of using MFSR. When you use MFSR you are not only aligning the inodes but also expanding the drive at the same time. You are wanting to use MFSTools to copy recordings, CableCARD pairings, and other miscellaneous data from the source drive to the already expanded and aligned target drive and use it in the TiVo.

    Currently MFSTools does not have the capability to copy without overwriting the target drive. That capability you are wanting is something I have thought about since MFSR came out. Just have not had a large enough block of time to look into it.
     
  13. May 10, 2017 #693 of 1995
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    Actually that is exactly what I have done. Yes it is another point of failure and I have for years avoided that kind of setup. However with the paucity of large mobile hard drives and not wanting to modify my case to add an externalized internal hard drive, I made my choice. I do back up my shows on my NAS in case something does go wrong. Unfortunately because of the copy protection not all shows can be backed up. If TiVo ever fixes the bug in their OS that limits MFS partitions to 2TiB, I would consider externalizing the internal drive with a large RAID. But that is only a dream at this time.
     
  14. May 11, 2017 #694 of 1995
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    Yep, as highlighted above in the QUOTE, we are both on the same page. :thumbsup:

    Up until just recently, *ALL* of my recordings were 'Unprotected ' and I could freely move them either between Roamios, or offload them onto a PC. Now, in kmttg, certain shows are 'brown' and cannot be moved from the 'originally-recorded-on ' TiVo so I can't copy them, along with my Season Passes, etc... to a PC, 'align' the HDD, change / upgrade the HDD, and restore things back to the 'way they were '.

    Thanks for the reply! Maybe you'll find a block of time BEFORE the 'summer doldrums ', when I plan to do my HDD upgrades X 2 (Basic and OTA).
     
  15. May 11, 2017 #695 of 1995
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    I have two series, one on HBO, the other on FX, that, due to my improved mental attitude regarding my serious health problem, I no longer can keep up with viewing (I went from depressed 'Couch Potato' @ 18+ hours / day back to Wild-and-Crazy 'Tinkerer / Nerd' @ ~2 hours / day; the mind is indeed a strange organ).

    I started off just buying the Refurbished 500GB Roamio OTA w/ Lifetime (replaced the Mini v1 in the BR) to use as both a 'Mini' (I hardly NEVER watch LIVE TV) and to offload shows from my LR Refurbished 500GB Roamio Basic w/ Lifetime. This QUICKLY filled up so I was forced to use 'HTTPS://TiVo_IP' to PS / 'Slow' Format transfer files (I learned my lesson about TS / 'Fast' Format transfers :mad: ) from the Basic and OTA to an external Toshiba Canvio 3TB USB 3.0 HDD that I added (along with the USB 3.0 card) to my 'ancient ' HP a6528p (Vista 32-bit, 3GB RAM). That one-by-one process soon became a tedious DAILY task so, using a Linux Boot CD, I was able to access my previous kmttg / pyTiVo setup on my currently dead HP G7-1310US laptop (2nd HDD failed), pull it over to the HP a6528p via my LAN and be back up-and-running in a few minutes. :thumbsup:

    Somehow, though, the Toshiba 3TB is now reporting only 1TB free?!? :confused: So, more and more 'UNprotected stuff ' from the LR Basic keeps getting moved to either the BR OTA or the Toshiba 3TB. I look forward to upgrading them both to either 3TB or 4TB (I have several HDDs of both 'flavors ' now 'in stock ' since I've been catching every 'Hot Deal' since last Thanksgiving. :D )

    Well, enough for now - 'Chatty Cathy' here now needs to find an old (yet still UNanswered :rolleyes: ) question that I posed to @moyekj regarding the 'Web Server' in kmttg and how a solution 'magically ' presented itself to me today...
     
  16. May 11, 2017 #696 of 1995
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    @TheCryptkeeper ,

    Did I say something to offend? :confused:
    i.e. You've logged onto TCF since my post (re:'Marrying HDDs') but haven't replied...
     
  17. May 12, 2017 #697 of 1995
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    Nope, not at all. But Bolts are a unique beast because of their small size and the limitation in internal hard drive size. I see advantages and disadvantages to both methods and I've been undecided as to whether I want to alter the case or just utilize the eSATA and use two drives. With altering the case and utilizing an externalized internal hard drive, cloning the hard drive and keeping a backup would be easy. But I don't know if I want to cut into a brand new Bolt. It's a difficult decision.

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  18. May 12, 2017 #698 of 1995
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    My Bolt 500 GB is arriving this evening and I want to verify the sequence of procedures I should use.

    Place 3TB Toshiba drive inside the Bolt and let it format until it gets to Guided Setup. Remove the 3TB hard drive from Bolt and use MFSR to align. Place hard drive back in Bolt, complete setup and make sure everything works. Remove hard drive from Bolt and use MFSTools 3.2 to add 8TB WD Red external drive to 3TB drive. Reinstall/reconnect drives to Bolt. Install new cable card, tuning adapter and pair.
     
  19. May 12, 2017 #699 of 1995
    dougdingle

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    I have a general question about 'aligning' the drive with MFSR...

    Has it actually been shown beyond the theory that doing this improves things, and if so, what things?

    I've never done it on my 3TB Roamio drives, and in several years of use I haven't see any performance issues.
     
  20. May 12, 2017 #700 of 1995
    jmbach

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    Yes that is exactly the procedure you need to follow.
     

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