MFS Tools 3.2

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  1. Feb 19, 2017 #641 of 1681
    internetsoncomps

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    I did one copy to 3tb from a 1tb new image you gave me that I then updated to new version and then did the mfstools on (I think it worked although haven't checked much yet-just that the tivo boots up and shows up in my devices again). Thanks much!

    If I am going to put a 3tb in another of the same model Premiere XL do I have to start from scratch with the original image or can I just do the mfstools again on the updated 1tb to another 3tb drive? Would the updating process and connecting to tivo servers when I put the 1tb back in the box be specific to that serial number or anything? I do have a lot of shows on the not-yet-upgraded premiere xl but the hard drive or expander or both are really giving me problems, so not sure if I would even be able to back them all up and copy them to the 3tb.
     
  2. Feb 19, 2017 #642 of 1681
    jmbach

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    If you use that recently updated image you just used for upgrading the last TiVo for this other TiVo, you will have to run a clear and delete everything on the image once it boots up to be functional on that TiVo.

    However, it will take a little time but if the total recorders shows are under 3TB and you hook up the TiVo drive, the extender drive, and the 3TB drive up at the same time, you could use MFSTools 3.2 to copy all your recorded shows to the 3TB drive.
     
  3. Apr 13, 2017 #643 of 1681
    JimWall

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    I have a series 3 HD rebooting randomly so I want to copy over to new drives. It has two 1 TB drives and I want to copy to a single internal 2 TB drive. mfs 3.2 shows command line
    Usage: ./mfscopy [options] SourceA[:SourceB] DestA[:DestB] so is the correct command line mfstool copy -ai /dev/sda /dev/sdb /dev/sdc where sda and sdb are the 2 source drives and sdc is the new single target drive?
     
  4. Apr 13, 2017 #644 of 1681
    jmbach

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    I believe the command should be mfscopy -ai /dev/sda:/dev/sdb /dev/sdc. There is a distinct possibility that when you copy the drive, you may be copying the booting issue as well.
     
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  5. Apr 13, 2017 #645 of 1681
    JimWall

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    Thanks! I wondered about the :. I will give it a try. Right now I waiting on a dd_rescue of the external drive. dd_rescue is getting DMA retries reading the drive at 700 MB transferred. I yesterday I did get an error on the TIVO that the external storage is missing. I did a cold boot and the TIVO booted fine. I watched 2 hours of shows with no issues. Then I shut it down and moved the external drive to a PC to do the dd_rescue. I did check drive with HD sentinal which reported the drive surface is excellent. But things can go bad due to heat after running the dd_rescue for hours with the drive and/or estata case.
     
  6. Apr 14, 2017 #646 of 1681
    JimWall

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    dd_rescue slowed to a crawl so I stopped it. Removed drive from esata case and hooked it up directly. dd_rescue ran with no errors. I have started mfscopy -ai /dev/sda:/dev/sdb /dev/sdc using the A and B 1 TB drives pulled from the Series 3 HD to a 2 TB drive.
     
  7. Apr 14, 2017 #647 of 1681
    ClearToLand

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    Just out of curiosity, what was the eSATA case plugged into:
    • eSATA port ADDED to your desktop?
      • plugged into existing motherboard SATA port
        - just a bracket added to extend internal ports to external
      • plugged into add-on SATA card port
        • with external eSATA port(s)
        • using a bracket to extend internal ports to external
    • eSATA port included with desktop?
    • Other?
      - Did the external eSATA socket on the external HDD case connect DIRECTLY to the HDD?
    Since my Win7 desktop *AND* laptop both have 'bad' HDDs, I'm using my 'trusty ole' Vista 32-bit 3GB RAM desktop for EVERYTHING while I assemble / build / repair / setup both OLD and NEW Win7 64-bit Home and Pro desktops and laptops.

    While I was afraid to touch ANYTHING on it initially, I've since gotten some courage and added:
    • Intel Gigabit NIC
    • SYBA 4-Port USB3.0
    • Monoprice (sIl 3132) 2-Port SATA II
    along with discovering, and using, HWinfo32.

    The point that I'm leading up to, in my old-fashioned, storytelling, OCD way, is that HWinfo32 made me aware of which devices were on which buses, whether or not these devices / buses were operating at their full capacity (i.e. my motherboard's 6 SATA ports are rated @ 300 / II but HWinfo32 says that they're only operating at @ 150 / I) or if I was saturating them, and finally if I could possibly move things around to 'spread the load'.

    I also keep a 'Resource Monitor' window open 24x7 with the drop-downs for both CPU and DISK expanded. My poor little Intel e2200 is ALWAYS @ 100% and Process Explorer shows me that over 50% of that is 'Interrupts' so, as I inferred earlier, this 'trusty ole' desktop (Passmark = 1201) is working its little heart out. My NEW desktop is a HP Z230 Workstation with an i5-4590 (Passmark = 7220) with Win7 Pro 64-bit and 16GB RAM.

    Would you mind describing your hardware in more detail?

    Thanks!

    An ENTIRE post *WITHOUT* one Smilie - can you believe it?!?
     
  8. Apr 14, 2017 #648 of 1681
    JimWall

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    The drive enclosure is about 10 years old so it has been working for a long time.
    Sabrent USB 2.0 TO SATA/SATA II Aluminum Enclosure With Cooling Fan | EC-UEIS7
    Enclosure accepts estata and usb 2.0. Inside there are sata and IDE connectors for the internal drive so the circuit board between must have some logic in it.
    I connected the enclosure using a esata bracket with its cable connected to one internal sata port.
    I built the desktop with a Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 MB with 6 internal sata ports. Manual date is 2014. It refers to the the sata ports as the same even though 4 are in one location on the MB and 2 are in another.
    It has an 8 core AMD CPU. During dd_rescue the CPU peaked at a little more than 10%
    I used linux/mfs 1.4 boot cd to run dd_rescue.
    I have done several dd_rescues in the past with this machine and new drive always worked in TIVO.
    I did the rescues after TIVO got very slow with pixelation and/or random rebooting.
    mfs 3.2 copy from two 1 TB drives to one 2 TB drive has a few more hours to run. Appears to have no issues so far.
    I looked for dd_rescue on the 3.2 boot cd and could not find it.
     
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  9. Apr 14, 2017 #649 of 1681
    ClearToLand

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    1. Attachment #1:
    2. Attachment #2:
    What did you mean to attach?
    I'm trying to understand / figure out why dd_rescue slowed to a crawl when the new HDD was in the Sabrent eSATA / USB2 case. I've seen my 'antique' system slow down while using the 'built-in' USB2 connections and also when transferring USB3-to-USB3 (both devices plugged into the one 4-Port USB3 PCIe card) limits their speed. But copying from a 2nd SATA II HDD plugged into the Monoprice SATA II controller PCIe card to an external USB3 HDD on the 4-port USB3 card is (usually) really fast (limited only by the CPU). The transfer speeds indicated by Windows Explorer don't match those in 'Resource Monitor', but that's Microsoft for ya...

    If you're curious too, after you're done with your TiVo project, pop another SATA HDD drive into the Sabrent external HDD enclosure and run CrystalDiskMark Portable.

    Congrats on your FIRST 'Like' in 15 years!
     
  10. Apr 15, 2017 #650 of 1681
    JimWall

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    copy finished. But with an ETA of 14 seconds there was an error like Source: out of space on video stream. Sorry I didn't write it down. I pulled the 2 TB drive anyway and put it in the Tivo series 3 HD. It booted to the almost there screen and after several minutes a blank screen and rebooted. After a couple times of doing that I did a kickstart 58. After reboot I got the installing service update screen. Then it rebooted. After the almost there screen it went blank and rebooted again.
    I then did a dd_rescue of the 1 TB A drive to a new 1 TB drive.
    I did some errands and when I returned it was finished. I used a 2 MB soft block size and it did get an error and fell back to the hard block size to finish the copy.
    I put the new A drive and current B drive (back in its enclosure) into the Tivo and it booted fine.
    It has now been 4 days and no reboot issues so dd_rescue of A drive seemed to fix the issue.
     
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  11. Apr 15, 2017 #651 of 1681
    JimWall

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    I did a backup to a USB drive before putting the drives back into the Tivo.
    I had to try different usb ports to find one recognized by suse linux.
    I didn't find an example with mfs 3.2 so here is what I did
    mkdir /dos
    mount -t vfat /dev/sdc1 /dos
    backup -6sio /dos/hd2.bak /dev/sda /dev/sdb
    backup file is almost 2 GB
     
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  12. Apr 15, 2017 #652 of 1681
    jmbach

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    Will see what I can do about getting ddrescue on the iso.

    Sent from my SM-G930P using Tapatalk
     
  13. Apr 16, 2017 #653 of 1681
    jmbach

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    Added dd_rescue and ddrescue to the ISO and links are updated.
     
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  14. Apr 18, 2017 #654 of 1681
    jlt822

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    Hello all. New to the TiVo
    Community. I'm trying to upgrade my roamio plus from 1tb to a 3tb wd av gp drive. I've run into an issue that I don't think anyone else has had or maybe I overlooked someone posting. I've tried to copy the source drive with both the live CD iso and the USB raw file. MFSTools boots and I am able
    To login and check the locations of the drives. I used mfstool copy -ai /dev/sda /dev/sdb. The copy process starts and continues for somewhere around an hour (eta 7 hrs to copy 900gb) and then MFStools seems to just restart without completing the copy. I didn't format the target drive before attempting the copy. Any ideas? Am I doing something wrong? Bad copy of mfstools? Thanks for any help
     
  15. Apr 18, 2017 #655 of 1681
    jmbach

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    Hmm. Does your BIOS have a power saving setting?
    How are the drives connected to your computer.
     
  16. Apr 18, 2017 #656 of 1681
    lpwcomp

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    Did you test the new drive?
     
  17. Apr 18, 2017 #657 of 1681
    jlt822

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    Thanks for your quick reply jmbach! I had initially thought it was a power saving issue also and checked the bios and didn't see any setting that would put anything to sleep after a given amount of time. Maybe I missed it. It's a gigabyte mb (h61n-USB 3). The drives are connected to the internal sata ports. I re downloaded the live CD and burned a new copy of it. It's working now and seems to have gotten further than the previous four attempts. I'm at 30% so maybe it will go through.
     
  18. Apr 18, 2017 #658 of 1681
    jlt822

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    I didn't. What's the best way to test? I thought I read somewhere that the new drive shouldn't be touched prior to the copy so I didn't. Thanks for your help!
     
  19. Apr 18, 2017 #659 of 1681
    lpwcomp

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    Gigabyte MBs have a bad habit of putting a BIOS backup into an HPA of the first connected HD.
     
  20. Apr 18, 2017 #660 of 1681
    lpwcomp

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    New drives should always be tested before using them. In your case. you should use the WD tests. I don't know if the tests are on the MFS tools 3.2 boot disk or not. I believe they are on the Ultimate Boot CD.
     

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