MFS Tools 3.2

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  1. Jan 25, 2017 #621 of 1995
    Dulanic

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    I originally followed that 2nd link, and it works but my 3TB drive still shows as a 500GB drive to the tivo.

    I did try that but it said not able to find a valid primary partition on the source? Which is odd since it works if I put the drive into my tivo.

    I verified with fdisk that I had the right drives.
     
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  2. Jan 25, 2017 #622 of 1995
    Dulanic

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    So I did another dd to copy the data. It works in the tivo again. However still shows the old size. No mfstool commands work at all, they all say no valid boot partition on that device but yet they work in the tivo. I just don't get it....
     
  3. Jan 25, 2017 #623 of 1995
    Dulanic

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    Just wanted to follow this up that jmbach was awesome and worked with me. I wasn't crazy, there seems to be something wrong with the boot record on my tivo drive even though it was working in the tivo.
     
  4. Jan 26, 2017 #624 of 1995
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  5. Jan 27, 2017 #625 of 1995
    djwilso

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    First off, I wanted to thank all of the people that have posted in this thread, especially jmbach for creating the ISO and for providing so much incredible support to so many people.

    I attempted to copy my TiVo Premiere XL 2TiB WD20EURS Green AV drive to a new 4TiB WD40EFRX Red drive and have run into problems.

    I used the following command to perform the copy:

    mfstool copy -ai /dev/sdb /dev/sda

    My original drive was /dev/sdb and the new drive was /dev/sda, as determined using the fdisk -l command. The disk sizes were reported correctly by fdisk. Additionally, I had tested the new WD Red drive using the WD diagnostic tool using the extended test and it passed with no errors. The new drive has only been booted under Linux or DOS boot CDs and has never been marked by Windows Disk Management. It's definitely blank, so no issues there.

    The copy started and almost immediately started reporting read errors from the source disk. This wasn't completely unexpected since the whole reason I am doing this is that for about the past month my TiVo Premiere XL has started rebooting itself randomly. At this point, it is rebooting randomly about once every other day.

    I have included an image showing all of the output from the mfstool copy command. Can anyone look at this output and tell me what your recommendation is on how I should proceed? Is there anything I can do to copy the original drive, or am I out of luck? I'm a complete novice when it comes to Linux so I do not understand everything I'm seeing in the output.

    Thanks in advance.

    [​IMG]
     
  6. Jan 27, 2017 #626 of 1995
    HerronScott

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    Do you have a spare 2TB drive that you could try using ddrescue to copy the current drive to temporarily to see if it can get past the errors?

    While not a TiVo drive, I used ddrescue for the first time recently to copy my nephew's hard drive that wouldn't boot (BCD issue) to a new drive which managed to recover almost everything according to the log (missed 340KB) and which booted successfully afterwards. I was actually only hoping to get to a point where I could do a repair reinstall (which kept failing as it checks the status of the drive) and was pleasantly surprised that it was so successful.

    Scott
     
  7. Jan 27, 2017 #627 of 1995
    djwilso

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    Unfortunately, I don't have a spare 2TB drive. Right now the only spare drive I have is the new 4TB WD Red drive.
     
  8. Jan 28, 2017 #628 of 1995
    jmbach

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    MFSTools does not do well with bad images. Your best bet is to do what HerronScott said and use ddrescue to another drive. You can always ddrescue to the 4TB drive. If it works and the 4TB boots up in the TiVo, you can then be happy that you saved your recordings but only have 2TB of recording space or go borrow or buy a 2TB drive and copy that image to it and then use MFSTools copy it back to the 4TB to get 4TB of recording space.
     
  9. Jan 28, 2017 #629 of 1995
    djwilso

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    I would definitely be willing to give ddrescue an attempt. I can always get another 2TB drive if this works.

    Could you assist in telling me what the exact ddrescue command syntax would be?

    I see some examples from Google like this:

    ddrescue -f /dev/sda /dev/sdb /home/users/knoppix/Desktop/log1.log

    Would it be similar to this? Where would I be able to specify the location of the log file since I realize that this knoppix example would not be applicable? I am using the CD-booted ISO version that you provided and the only physical hard drives I will have connected are the TiVo original drive and the new WD Red drive.

    EDIT: I did some searching and found the following link in an earlier post in this thread, so I will try following the information there and see how things turn out.

    How To Clone Your Failing TiVo Drive With ddrescue
     
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  10. Jan 28, 2017 #630 of 1995
    jmbach

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    That is a good start. To recover as much as possible with ddrescue, you use some additional commands on recursive attempts using the log to focus on the bad spots. In my experience very time consuming and unproductive.
     
  11. Jan 28, 2017 #631 of 1995
    HerronScott

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    I believe I used the following when I recovered the Windows drive I mentioned.

    ddrescue -d -f -r3 /dev/sda /dev/sdb /media/PNY_usb/rescue.logfile

    Note that if you are booting from a CD that you'll need to use a USB flash drive if you want to keep the log file or try to use it for further attempts at recovery (which I did not do).

    I was using information from the following 2 webpages.

    Guide to Using DDRescue to Recover Data - Technibble

    How to Clone Hard Disks with ddrescue | Datarecovery.com

    I did use the SystemRescueCD mentioned in the second site but I'm pretty sure that I used the command from the first site.

    Scott
     
  12. Feb 3, 2017 #632 of 1995
    djwilso

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    I wanted to write an update to my upgrade saga. I had previously posted having issues upgrading my stock 2TB TiVo Premiere XL WD Green AV drive to a new WD Red 4TB drive.

    I determined that the computer that I initially attempted to use MFS Tools 3.2 on had some bad RAM and that it was causing the copy to fail.

    Fortunately I had another computer to use and everything worked perfectly there.

    So, I now have 638 HD hours after completing an error-free mfstool copy, which took 11 hours.

    However, the main reason I had started down this road at all was that my TiVo had been randomly restarting itself every day or two, so I thought that the hard drive was failing. As it turns out, even after the new 4TB drive has been installed, I am still seeing the box reboot every couple days. I did make sure to run the Western Digital extended test when I had first received the drive. That completed with no errors.

    I'm not really sure what to check for next. Maybe the power supply? Just from a visual standpoint, the capacitors look okay. I'm not sure if I should try replacing it and seeing if it helps.

    If anyone has any suggestions or advice on things I might try to track down the root cause of these random reboots, I'd love to hear ideas.

    This thread is simply amazing and I want to thank everyone that has contributed to it. I have learned so much.
     
  13. Feb 3, 2017 #633 of 1995
    jmbach

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    Please clarify a few things for me. My understanding from scanning through your posts is that you used ddrescue to make a copy of a failing image. Then used that copy and MFSTools to copy to a 4TB drive. If that is correct, you might have just transferred the issue to the 4TB drive. The only way to correct that is to get a clean image from ggieseke and use that on a good drive in your TiVo. If you still are getting reboot issues, then it is something else like power supply, cabling, motherboard. I have seen some talk about reboots when scanning for open ports within the home network.
     
  14. Feb 3, 2017 #634 of 1995
    djwilso

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    I had initially thought that my original 2TB drive was failing, but I don't think that is the case at this point. I think that the bad RAM on the original computer I used to perform the copy using MFS Tools 3.2 caused the errors in the original picture I had attached in one of my posts.

    I had used a universal boot disk with a program called MemTest86+ to test the RAM and that's how I had determined the problem with the original computer. At that point, I stopped using the original computer and started using another one that tested with no RAM issues.

    On the new computer, I actually did use ddrescue to copy the 2TB drive to the 4TB drive, but when that was completely successful with 0 errors on the first pass, I figured I would go ahead and reattempt my "Plan A" and use MFS Tools 3.2 to try doing the copy again.

    And this time, the copy using MFS Tools 3.2 went perfectly with 0 errors.

    The ggieseke image sounds like it would be a good next step to attempt if the reboots continue. I'm not sure what all is involved in using such an image, but I'm sure it would be another learning experience. :blush:
     
  15. Feb 4, 2017 #635 of 1995
    ggieseke

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    If you have to go that route you would basically be building a factory XL drive from an image that I made in 2013 using your 2TB drive and DvrBARS. It would still show a 1TB capacity at that point. After putting it back in the TiVo and letting it update to the latest OS you would have to pull it again and use MFSTools 3.2 to expand copy and expand it to the 4TB drive.

    All of your settings and recordings would be lost. Let me know if you need the image, but hopefully the reboots don't come back.
     
  16. Feb 4, 2017 #636 of 1995
    djwilso

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    Thanks for this; I appreciate it. It has been up for 1.5 days at this point so I am tentatively optimistic. I will let you know if I need to attempt going this route.
     
  17. Feb 10, 2017 #637 of 1995
    MediaWiz

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    Where can I download a binary (ISO) of MFS Tools 3.2? I tried going to the link above on SourceForge, but it only seems to contain the source. I also tried following the link on the SourceForge page to the "MSF Tools" web page, but the only ISO file contains version 2.
     
  18. Feb 15, 2017 #638 of 1995
    PrimeRisk

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    jmbach put it in post #131 of this thread...link is below to his post with his images.

    MFS Tools 3.2
     
  19. Feb 18, 2017 #639 of 1995
    internetsoncomps

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    Has anyone used a wd re drive in a tivo? Is that overkill? I have a 4tb re laying around (although it's technically a spare for my nas-I haven't needed to replace a drive in the raid in quite some time so may want to hold on to it). I was going to use a couple wd 3tb reds for my 2 premiere xls whose hard drive are on the fritz but also remembered I had that one.
     
  20. Feb 18, 2017 #640 of 1995
    ggieseke

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    The Reds (not the 7200RPM Red Pros) are probably the most recommended drive here since WD killed the AV-rated Green (EURX) line. There are LOTS of them in TiVos, all the way up to 8TB.
     
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