MFS Tools 3.2

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  1. Nov 1, 2016 #521 of 1995
    markis

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    Just wanted to say thanks to jkozee, jmbach and everyone involved with MFS Tools. My Premiere upgrade to 3TB worked perfectly. I did run extended drive tests and a full erase without seeing any issues. I also checked wdidle3 just in case and it was already set to 300 seconds from the factory, so I didn't change it.
     
  2. Nov 3, 2016 #522 of 1995
    PDXScud

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    I could use some pointer on debugging backup/copy problems. This is on a TiVo HD and I want to make a copy of the working drive, which is 1TB. I have tried both the CD ISO and USB images but both yielded the same results.

    If I try to copy (mfstool copy -ai /dev/sdb /dev/sda) I get a consistent error: "Copy source: Out of space for application content." It always fails at the same point (1078 of 1462 MiB and 73.73%).

    If I try to backup my drive (backup -ai -o /mnt/stick1/tivobkup /dev/sdb) it works fine. "1462 of 1462 MiB 100.00% and Backup done!" But then when I go to restore (restore -i /mnt/stick1/tivobkup /dev/sda) it always fails with the same error message at the same point.

    One thing I noticed is the partitions sizes don't match. The source drive (sdb) is a new drive from WeaKnees. After the failed copy or restore, the target's partitions are slightly different sizes but shouldn't the copy/backup/restore tools match the partitions sizes from the source to the target?

    Source
    /dev/sdb10 589824 288MiB
    /dev/sdb11 975377488 476258MiB
    /dev/sdb12 589824 288MiB
    /dev/sdb13 975377488 476258MiB


    Target
    /dev/sda10 589824 288MiB
    /dev/sdb11 974984192 476066MiB
    /dev/sdb12 589824 288MiB
    /dev/sdb13 974984192 476066MiB


    Any suggestions on how to debug?
     
  3. Nov 3, 2016 #523 of 1995
    jmbach

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    Can you post the partition map for both drives.

    MFSTools 3.2 copies two different ways. One is like the original MFSTools and the other is the new way that adjusts the recording space and swap space based on the size of the target drive.
     
  4. Nov 4, 2016 #524 of 1995
    PDXScud

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    I've attached jpg's of the source (sdb) and the target (sda) with all the partition and zone information. I also tried to mount and look at the partitions but failed. Does 3.2 include the tivopart pieces so that the partitions can be mounted?

    source_map.jpg target_map.jpg
     
  5. Nov 4, 2016 #525 of 1995
    jmbach

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    Tivopart is not included. If I can find the source, I can incorporate it in.
    I am fairly sure MFSTools 3.2 is making a larger swap partition.
    Use "F v1" switch in backup or "R" switch with copy to force version 1 backup / copy to make a mirror of the drive(I thought no. I never have tried that myself but I think it will work)


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  6. Nov 4, 2016 #526 of 1995
    PDXScud

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    I tried both going the backup route with -F v1 but when I go to restore I get the error: "Restore: Backup target not large enough for entire backup by itself." This is confusing to me. Shouldn't it be the restore target? I thought the restore would wipe the drive. So I used dd and nuked the MBR. Same error.

    Then I tried the copy route. Same error. In both cases, I tried mfsinfo and it found no partitions. I then tried a regular copy. The partition tables made were the same ones I attached earlier.

    I found a copy of tivopart (attached). I don't know if there is a more current one. I think this one works.
     

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  7. Nov 5, 2016 #527 of 1995
    DefaultLocation

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    There is a note in the post on this megathread with the MFSTools 3.2 links stating that Bolt images don't work and not to use it with them: "11/5/16 MFSTools 3.2 has issues working with Bolt images and is not recommended to be used on any Bolt images. "

    But then there's a few posts where someone used MFSTools to setup an external drive for a Bolt that worked. I want to add an external 3TB drive to my Bolt, can I use the MFSTools 3.2 ISO linked earlier in this thread to run mfstools add and marry the drives?
     
  8. Nov 5, 2016 #528 of 1995
    jmbach

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    The experience with MFSTools 3.2 and Bolts is very limited. It does appear that adding a drive to a Bolt seems to work. Copying and backing up Bolt images does not work.
     
  9. Nov 9, 2016 #529 of 1995
    PDXScud

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    Has anyone successful made a backup or a copy of an HD drive purchased from WeaKnees? I am unable to do this with the tools so I am wondering if anyone has had success and knows the secret.
     
  10. Nov 9, 2016 #530 of 1995
    jmbach

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    Have you tried DvrBARS?
     
  11. Nov 11, 2016 #531 of 1995
    DefaultLocation

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    Just following up to confirm that I was indeed able to marry an external 3TB drive to my 1TB Bolt using the MFSTools 3.2 ISO and using "mfstool add -xfm 2000 /dev/sdX /dev/sdY". It's been several days now and it appears to be working perfectly fine.
     
  12. Nov 12, 2016 #532 of 1995
    joerowan

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    No the drive was good. Just wanted a larger drive. So I put the larger drive in, re paired the cable card and it is working fine. Just didn't copy anything over. I was going to put a larger drive in my a Roamio but will hold off for now.
     
  13. Nov 13, 2016 #533 of 1995
    wintermute824

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    Could use some help.

    I used Virtualbox to create a (Ubuntu) Linux machine, and used it to run MFStools to copy the TCD46320 image (received from ggieseke, thanks!) to a brand new 2TB WD purple drive. I'm not 100% sure, but I beleive it failed, and I'd like to ask for suggestions.

    I put the MFSTools 3.2 live CD iso in the optical drive (virtual) slot of the VB machine, and attached the TCD46320 vhd as a HDD. Connected the new 2TB drive via a USB/SATA dock (connected, ignored, mounted to VB machine via the menu bar).
    VBmachine.jpeg
    Once the MFStools terminal was running, used "fdisk -l" to identify the drives, pretty easy, as the TCD46320 image was the only thing showing at ~320gb, and the new HDD was the same ~2TB.
    Used "mfstool copy /dev/sdb /dev/sdc"

    It ran for a good while, but it showed a lot of apparent errors, and when it got into the mid-70s% complete, it kicked out more errors and failed.

    I tried to run it again with the -a feature, since the errors/hangups spoke about streams (thinking maybe a more dirrect copy would have better success).
    It did about the same, kicked a lot of errors, halted for a bit in the 70s, resumed and then failed.

    After it failed, the (target) HDD did not appear to be mounted anymore. I had to disconnect/reconnect the USB for it recognize it again.
    But this time I took some screen captures.
    Untitled 4.jpeg Untitled 7.jpeg Untitled 8.jpeg Untitled 9.jpeg
    My MacbookPro's OS still can't read the drive (probably a good thing), but the disk utility does now show that drive as having 13 partitions (labeled 2-14), so I'm not sure how close it got.
    Untitled 10.jpeg
    I have not tried installing it in the Tivo box yet (which is still functional on it's already C&DE (possibly failing) drive).

    Looking for suggestions as to what to do next.

    Am I using the MFStools correctly with the right setup?
    Should I abandon and try using DVRBARS (a friend lent me a Windows10 laptop, but I was trying to do in with MFST rather than restore and then have to try to expand the drive.
    If I need to start over, do I have to do anything to prep the new HDD now that the first try has failed?

    Thanks in advance.
     
  14. Nov 13, 2016 #534 of 1995
    jmbach

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    Not sure if this matters much but I would create the virtual machine with the MFSTools iso running as a live CD. Also this was made on openSUSE 32 bit.

    Attach the VHD to the virtual machine like you have done.

    Run the virtual machine and attach your USB drive.

    I would just run mfstool copy /dev/sdX /dev/sdY. This will just copy the basics over. Since the image is from ggieseke, all you need is the basics anyway.
     
  15. Nov 13, 2016 #535 of 1995
    andy_hd

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    Thanks to all for the updated MFS tool suite. I just upgraded a flaky premiere 2TB WD Green (previously upgraded) disk to a 3TB WD Red. For those interested the copy (all recordings) using a direct, internal SATA connection took about 10 hours.
     
  16. Nov 14, 2016 #536 of 1995
    dmark1867

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    This post has so much information! Thank you to everyone that has contributed.

    For my own sanity I am breaking down what I am about to do.
    If you see anything I am missing or do not need to do, please let me know.

    I have stock tivo premier 320gb drive, never been upgraded, running software 20.6.1a.RC10
    I would like to preserve all settings and I have new a wd red 3tb drive



    Here is what I am planning on doing:

    Get MFSTools 3.2 ISO from here
    MFS Tools 3.2

    burn image to CD, put cd in pc and power off

    temporarily disconnect any other SATA drives in your PC so that your original Tivo drive and the new upgrade drive are the only two connected to the PC's SATA ports. Leave the CD Rom drive connected even if it is SATA, so you can boot the PC with the MFS Tools 3.2 CD.

    Boot using CD

    login using username root and password tivo

    disk -l (to reveal drive identities)

    mfstool info /dev/sdx
    (on each drive to make sure I knew which drive was which)

    mfstool copy -ai /dev/sda /dev/sdb
    (sda was the original drive and sdb is the target drive)

    When complete power off pc and connect new drive to tivo and power on
    Check recording capacity

    Do a kick start 57
    If Kickstart 57 puts TiVo into an endless reboot cycle try doing a Kickstart 58

    Kickstart info
    Please Help! Tivo Keeps Restarting!

    manually initiate a connection to the TiVo service
    Settings & Messages > Settings > Network > Connect to the TiVo service now

    check guide data (might need to repeat connection to Tivo service)
     
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  17. Nov 14, 2016 #537 of 1995
    jmbach

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    I don't think the Kickstart codes are needed if you ran the target drive through diagnostics before doing the copy.
     
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  18. Nov 14, 2016 #538 of 1995
    dmark1867

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    Great, I would rather not worry about the kick start commands, I thought I saw you post somewhere and stated that your available space was not showing up until you did a KS 57

    Just to clarify, when you say to do diagnostics are you referring to testing a drive for problems using Data Lifeguard Diagnostics for Windows outlined here: How to test a drive for problems using Data Lifeguard Diagnostics for Windows | WD Support

    If so should I do a quick test, an extended test or both?
    Should I use erase the disc prior?

    Sorry for all the basic questions and I greatly appreciate your help
     
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  19. Nov 14, 2016 #539 of 1995
    jmbach

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    Would do an extended test.
     
  20. Nov 15, 2016 #540 of 1995
    Sbmocp

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    Can any of these be loaded on the TiVo itself?

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