MFS Tools 3.2

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  1. Mar 5, 2016 #281 of 1988
    notting

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    Tried the poor man's KS50 already (zeroed out partition 14), and then tried KS67... neither made any difference.

    Somewhere on the drive is the flag that sets "Clear..."... I'll be damned if I can find it, though.

    Eh, because some other crazy person might pick this up at some point...

    Places where the flag that tells Tivo to 'Clear Guide data & To Do List' is NOT set:
    - in the partition header (does not change)
    - at the end of the disk (all zeros)
    - anywhere on /db partition (although it does change the 'sticky' file from '0' to '5')
    - anywhere on /var partition
    - in the MFS header
    - as a hardcoded flag in the flash/OS (it does not clear other Tivo drives you put in)
     
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  2. Mar 6, 2016 #282 of 1988
    Soapm

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    I have a premier with a 2tb drive. Anyway to copy my existing drive to a new 4tb drive? I don't know how many partitions I have but I imagine it's maxed since I have a 2tb drive.

    What is the max drive I can put in my premier?
     
  3. Mar 6, 2016 #283 of 1988
    jmbach

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    4TB with a simple MFSTools 3.2 copy command. 6TB I am still working on developing a simplified procedure of accomplishing that.
     
  4. Mar 7, 2016 #284 of 1988
    Soapm

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    Would that be copying my existing 2Tb drive to 4TB or would I have to use a virgin image?
     
  5. Mar 7, 2016 #285 of 1988
    ThAbtO

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    Expanding may be limited to only once and using a "non-expanded" image may be your only option.
     
  6. Mar 7, 2016 #286 of 1988
    mattack

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    You mean with these tools, right? (Not the other tool, MFS reformatter, which needs Windows, and is only for Roamio and above, IIRC.)

    any idea if/when you're likely to have that done? I think 4 TB is still at about the sweet spot for drive prices nowadays, but 5 & 6 are sometimes reasonably priced.

    I did the drop in replacement for my Roamio to 3 TB, but never upgraded my Premiere 4 that's also still online..
     
  7. Mar 7, 2016 #287 of 1988
    jmbach

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    You would be using your existing drive that has the latest OS. The virgin image from ggieseke does not support drives over 2TB and will boot loop on you if you tried to take it to 4TB.
     
  8. Mar 7, 2016 #288 of 1988
    jmbach

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    MFSTools 3.2 will take (at least Premiere and later TiVos that I have tested) the expanded drive and create the new image with just 2 pairs of partitions (app and media) like an original TiVo image.
     
  9. Mar 7, 2016 #289 of 1988
    jmbach

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    Well my development computer went down and I am in the process of getting it replaced. Plus work has been busy and not allowing for free time. So it will be a little bit. You could get a 6TB and copy the image limiting the expansion space to 4TB with a switch in MFSTools which is the first step. Then later when I have the program done expand to the full 6TB.

    Currently when MFSTools expands to 4TB, it places all the partitions such that they each start in the 32bit address space (under 2TB) because initially the TiVo OS could not address anything beyond a 32bit address space. TiVo soon rectified that and now we have a 64bit APM structure. Problem is that you cannot mix 32bit and 64bit entries as you will cause a boot loop. Unfortunately when MFSTools adds the extra pair of partitions after the 4TB mark, it does add it as a 64bit APM entry but does not convert the whole APM to 64bit. So I have to create a program that will do just that or modify MFSTools to do that. The second thing I need to do is coalesce the pair of partitions the MFSTools added. Once those two steps are completed, we have 6TB.
     
  10. Mar 7, 2016 #290 of 1988
    mattack

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    Which is ironic, since now 8 TB drives are available! Not cheap yet, but will be..

    so ok, last question for now I hope.. You do mean that in theory I could buy a 4 TB drive, copy my ORIG Premiere 4 drive to it (including shows/OP).. and use that as a 4 TB drive, then later if you ever finish the upgrade, *IN PLACE* (in a computer obviously) upgrade the Tivo partition stuff to know it's 6 TB.. with no loss in data?
     
  11. Mar 8, 2016 #291 of 1988
    jmbach

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    Yes.

    As a side note, unless TiVo corrects the small issue in the OS that reads a 64bit number as 32bit, the max size for the premiere and above is 6TB unless more extreme modifications are done, then in theory 8TB would be possible for a single internal drive. Currently with MFSTools, adding a 8TB external is possible.


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  12. Mar 8, 2016 #292 of 1988
    mattack

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    OK, so skimming the whole thread, I get that the basic syntax is:
    mfstool copy -ai /dev/sda /dev/sdb
    to copy a drive to another drive and include EVERYTHING, and it automatically supersizes during the process.

    Looking at post #2, not knowing all of the gory details about Tivo partitions, is still very complex.

    What is the analogous command to the above except _don't_ copy the actual shows? (Another post mentioned that a full drive can take "days".)

    (This would be for a Premiere 4, but I don't think that's relevant.. Oh, and in my post a few previous, I typoed, my hypothetical was buying a 6 TB and using it "for now" as 4 TB.. Still might do that, with the hope that the extra 2 TB eventually become useful.)
     
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  13. Mar 8, 2016 #293 of 1988
    jmbach

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    The command to copy everything but the recordings is mfstool copy - i /dev/sdX /dev/sdY. To limit the expansion to 4TB if you are going to copy to a 6TB drive everything but the recordings would be mfstool copy - iM 4000 /dev/sdX /dev/sdY.
     
  14. Mar 9, 2016 #294 of 1988
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    Hey guys I'm having a bit of an issue with the new HDD in the Tivo Premiere 2 tuner. The original hard drive seemed to be flaky, the Tivo would reboot to the Starting up blue screen the green light would be on then amber lights flash and the screen would go black (no video signal). this same behavior would happen regardless of input, ie hdmi, rca jacks. I figured it was HD issue. so ordered WD Green 2tb EURx version. So i used DVRBARS and recieved new image from that thread, Thank you ggieseke. Put in the new HD in tivo and i get exactly same behavior. i then used an older 320gb drive and put the image on that and used MFSTools to copy and upgrade to the WD Green 2TB drive. Was confirmed of successful copy and then put the 2TB drive in Premiere and get the same behavior. Using the Kickstart codes after the amber light starts flashing and i am rewarded with a solid green and solid blue light. i left it like that for 24hrs and nothing changed. This is the same behavior i got with the kickstart codes with the original drive as well. I checked power supple and am getting 12 volts and 5 volts respecrtively at the HDD. the disk is spinning up i can hear and feel the vibration. Any ideas what could be going on here? thanks for your help
     
  15. Mar 9, 2016 #295 of 1988
    jmbach

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    rbstuartjr

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    I tried to check Puis on the drive but couldn't get my pc to recognize the drive while running hdat2. The thing is, I get the exact same behavior from the TiVo regardless of which drive I use. I used dvrbars to install the new image on the original 329gb disk as well as an older 320gb desktop disk. So I'm at a loss at what could be the issue.
     
  17. Mar 9, 2016 #297 of 1988
    jmbach

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    To be clear, you have placed ggieseke's image on two different 320GB drives and each drive was booted in the TiVo with the same result. Initial boot screen with green light to flashing amber light and then to black screen. Is the green light still on with the black screen? And you have tried all different outputs and still a black screen.
     
  18. Mar 9, 2016 #298 of 1988
    rbstuartjr

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    Yes, I put the new image on both 320GB drives and got the same result. Initial boot screen with solid green light, then solid green with amber flashing to black screen(no video stream detected by tv) with a solid green light. I have only tried the hdmi output and the composite cable output. With same results. I can hear and feel each hard drive spin up.
    I was able to get to guided setup only once and that was with composite cable and power cord only connected. Thinking it might be the power supply I disconnected the fan to. I went through guard setup, phoned home twice. But when I had to restart the drive to do the clear and delet, it never booted back up past starting screen.
    So basically I have 3 HD's responding the exact same way in this TiVo. Could it be power supply? I did test the voltage at motherboard and HD and did get 5.13 and 12.30 volts, with the fan plugged in. With fan unplugged I got 5.13 and 12.45 at HD and motherboard connector.
     
  19. Mar 9, 2016 #299 of 1988
    jmbach

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    Try downloading the image again. And retry the process. If you are getting to the KS portal then it is booting of the hard drive. Perhaps the image for corrupted when you downloaded it the first time.
     
  20. Mar 9, 2016 #300 of 1988
    rbstuartjr

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    Ok I just finished downloading the image again and will give it another try, thanks for your help.
     

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