MFS Tools 2.0! An upgrade revolution!

Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by Tiger, Jun 15, 2002.

  1. kenr

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    The command is "mfsadd" not "mfs add", i.e., no space between the 's' and the 'a'.
     
  2. Ivor

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    Several people have had problems booting the MFST2 disk. There are two versions Joilet, which seems to be causing some problems, and NonJoilet which seems to boot OK. Go here http://hellcat.tyger.org/MFS/2.0/ download the file mfstools2noJ.iso and try that. :)
     
  3. Robert S

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    Cambridgeshi...
    borg, don't do it that way, you need to expand your swap. Do

    mfsbackup -Tao - /dev/hdx | mfsrestore -s 127 -xpi - /dev/hdy /dev/hdz

    Will take hours again, I'm afraid, so do make sure your DMA settings are correct before you start.

    Your current configuration will die horribly if you get any filesystem corruption and although we have a sort of work around, it ain't ever going to be pretty.
     
  4. massimj

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    Jensen...
    Here is the update on my last upgrade. I replaced a 20 hour Phillips with a 80 Gb Maxtor drive. I also installed the memory upgrade at the same time. When I was done, everything appeared to work fine, same for the next day or so; then I got the reboot screen (if that's what you call it), and all I could do was remove power and let it reboot. This happened a few times over the next week, maybe 6 or 7 in a two week period. As I got more recordings on my Tivo, it happened less and less. It now has not happened in over a month. I don't know if it was a drive failure, but for now it is working fine. Joe
     
  5. Sep 3, 2002 #165 of 670
    muchmore44

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    I just want to say thanks to Hinsdale and Tiger for giving us TiVo users a way to maximize a terrific technology, as well as to Robert S. and Merle C. for refining the swap expansion/correction process.

    Last night, I upgraded my Hughes DirectTiVo from 35 hours to 106 hours (went from 40 GB to 120 GB) and it couldn't have gone better! It took approximately 1 hour, 30 min, mostly because I was very, very careful - I could have done it faster, but I didn't want to take any chances. MFSTools 2.0 are the best!

    I am the happiest guy in the world right now (at least until the next person upgrades a Tivo!) and wanted to thank you guys for all that you have done.

    You guys are Saints!

    Thanks,
    Muchmore44
     
  6. Sep 4, 2002 #166 of 670
    keithrj

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    thanks to all on the thread Hinsdale, Tiger, Robert etc - yesterday upgraded my Sony DirectTivo T-60 dual drive (30Gb +15Gb) to 2 x 100 Gb.

    Now have 190 hours - and the new season just about to start

    thanks again
     
  7. Sep 4, 2002 #167 of 670
    jonhp

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    Thanks to everyone, especially tyger.
    Just finished upgrading my tivo replacing the original 13GB drive with a new maxtor 120GB drive. great tools and documentation!
     
  8. Sep 7, 2002 #168 of 670
    noone001

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    I am trying to make a MFS tools CD and the only CDR writer software I have access to is HP RecordNow (from Veritas). I can't figure out how to write the iso image file to the disk. I tried writing the image file as a file, but it would not boot. I can't find any options to create a disc from an image.

    Any thoughts?
     
  9. Sep 7, 2002 #169 of 670
    Robert S

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    Cambridgeshi...
    Writing an ISO to a CD as a file is not the way to make a bootable disk. If your software doesn't have an option to write an ISO image there's no way around it.

    Use the boot floppy instead. If you're just upgrading the hard drive, you won't miss the CD.

    You will need a DOS floppy with a copy of qunlock on it, but manually unlocking the drive only takes a minute (you have to switch the PC OFF after running qunlock).
     
  10. philhu

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    Record Now that comes with hp products is a lite version.

    RecordNow MAX for $30 from veritas is what you want!
     
  11. darksaber

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    Just finished my upgrade to add a 120gb maxtor to a 30gb Phillips Series 1, and feeling stupid that I waited soooo long.

    It really was outstandingly easy, despite my total and complete ignorance of Linux.

    Couldn't be easier, and I'm happy to have a tested backup of my system
     
  12. UncaAndoo

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    Okay, I'm wondering if the wonderful 2.0 can do this momentous task.

    I bought my DSR-6000, and used it until I got my 2 120GB drives. Back in those days, there wasn't any MFSTools way to save the shows I had recorded.

    But is there now? I probably still have the backup image on a CD. And even if I don't have that, I still have the two original drives sitting in their ESD bags.

    Can I somehow get the shows on those 2 original drives onto my 2 120GB drives, while keeping the shows that are currently on them?

    Not to mention that there has been a software upgrade since then...

    Never mind -- I realize it's just a dream. A beautiful, wonderful dream.
     
  13. entropy

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    My friend Geoff and I tried booting from both of these images, with no luck. We had to use the floppy.

    ~ Kiran <entropy@io.com>
     
  14. Oct 5, 2002 #174 of 670
    bodosom

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    Niagara...
    I tried and failed to add a pair of partitions by using:

    &nbsp;mfsadd /dev/hda /dev/hdb4 /dev/hdb5

    The result was an error message about hdb4+hdb5.

    Has anyone suceeded in doing this?
     
  15. Oct 5, 2002 #175 of 670
    Robert S

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    Cambridgeshi...
    At the very least you need to report the partition tables from the two drives and the exact error message you got.

    You'll need to boot byteswapping or type the following at the MFS Tools 2.0 boot: prompt - vmlnodma hda=bswap,hdb=bswap. You should see the partition tables printed out at boot.

    If you have a normal hard drive mounted on /mnt/dos (as Hinsdale describes), you can capture the partition tables with:

    pdisk -l /dev/hda >/mnt/dos/tivotbl.txt
    pdisk -l /dev/hdb >>/mnt/dos/tivotbl.txt


    (note the double chevron on the second line). Which should give you a file you can paste into a post.

    It would also be useful to see the output of mfsinfo, which can probably be captured in a similar way.

    Tiger is back, by the way, so if you put the effort into reporting this properly you stand a chance of getting a fix.
     
  16. Oct 5, 2002 #176 of 670
    bodosom

    bodosom Just another tivotee

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    Niagara...
    Well I said a bit more over in:
    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=77862

    Sadly I still have but a single TiVo and my last excursion into upgrade resulted in losing all my shows so I'm hesitant to repeat these steps until I get a second unit.

    As I wrote earlier I used pdisk to make four partitions, marked two as MFS (one smallish, the other most of the disk), booted in DMA mode, checked with mfsinfo and then ran mfsadd. Then I went back to dataswap mode, set the media bit and tried mfsadd again. Still no luck.

    I was hoping someone who actually used MFSTools V2.0 to add a partition pair might report the steps since I struggled to find clear instructions regarding pdisk and I suspect I may have a made a subtle error.

    However if the only answer is for me to run the steps again I will (but not for a while).

    PS - I'm reasonably conversant in at least some of this stuff. I have an hdr-112 with a 100G drive and a turbo-net card. I run Linux on most of my computers.
     
  17. Oct 5, 2002 #177 of 670
    Robert S

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    Cambridgeshi...
    I'm not really sure that adds much to what you've said before. Without seeing the partition tables, I don't think Tiger will have enough to work from.

    If you just want to get working, why don't you do this the other way round? Define a partition big enough for whatever it is you want to put on the B drive other than the MFS partitions and let mfsadd create the new partitions itself.
     
  18. Oct 6, 2002 #178 of 670
    bodosom

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    Niagara...
    The documentation and my experience suggests that if you don't do a pair add mfsadd will repartition the entire disk.

    While I realize I'm being a ``bad'' customer if someone -- anyone -- would say that ``I've done this'' I'd feel properly chastened and go away until I can get some transcripts but at the moment I don't even know if this feature has been tested and shown to work in multiple environments. E.g. it took me some time to get a bootable image because of the joliet problem and even more time to figure out how to get byte-swapping working since the on-cd instructions don't work for me. The document suggests that all this stuff just works for some people so I'm starting to wonder if there are some bios/hardware issues associated with my difficulties.

    BTW, mfsinfo just shows the partition pair while pdisk shows the MFS label area, the ext2 partition that I made and the two MFS (application and media) partitions.
     
  19. Oct 6, 2002 #179 of 670
    Robert S

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    Cambridgeshi...
    I haven't personally run mfsadd on a two-disk config, but people do seem to be successfully upgrading their B drives by using dd to copy their recordings and then mfsadd to expand into the unused space. So clearly mfsadd doesn't always repartition.

    Byteswapping is broken on the MFS Tools 2.0 CD, that's why I gave you that magic incantation to use. You'll find any of the earlier boot disks (Dylan's Boot Floppy, Kazymyr's CD) will byteswap just fine (hda is left unswapped on those disks).

    Is it worth bothering to repeat my assertion that Tiger will very probably be unable to do anything for you you without seeing the output of pdisk -l on both drives? Do say if you want further clarification on how to capture that.
     
  20. Oct 6, 2002 #180 of 670
    bodosom

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    Niagara...
    I'm particularly concerned about testing this sort of stuff because if mfstools binds the two drives together it's not clear to me how to get them apart while preserving the recordings since I'll have 180G at that point.
    Well I prefer to think of as it's not clearly documented. After some fiddling with Kazymyr's CD and reviewing the IDE boot flags I figured it out.
    I should have another TiVo in about a week. If there's been no answer forthcoming in the interim I'll do the steps on the new unit.

    I do appreciate your time and patience in this. Thank you.
     

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