MFS Tools 2.0! An upgrade revolution!

Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by Tiger, Jun 15, 2002.

  1. Jun 25, 2002 #81 of 670
    kazymyr

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    The...
    BTW, you don't even have to burn the CD to extract the floppy image from the ISO image. Here's how:

    In Windows, use Winimage to open the .iso and extract files from it.

    In Linux, assuming you have the mfstools.iso in your home directory, do this:
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    cd ~
    mkdir iso
    su
    (enter root password)
    mount -o loop mfstools2.iso iso
    cp iso/floppy/mfstools.img .
    umount iso
    exit
    dd if=mfstools.img of=/dev/hda bs=18k
    
    and you end-up with the mfstools floppy.
     
  2. Jun 25, 2002 #82 of 670
    JPriller

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    I've no light to shed, but it's happening to me too, and I also had no problems burning the 1.0 CD last fall. I downloaded the image okay and burned two CDs, but neither will boot on any of my three PCs. I can see the CD directory contents fine from Win2000, but all I get trying to boot from the CDs is a "boot failure" message.

    I'm using Ahead Nero 5.5, and "Burn Image" off the file menu. The data mode defaults to 1 and block size to 2048, as desired. I've got a PC with Adaptec software at work, maybe I'll try that.

    [edit: found some answers on this thread.]
     
  3. Jun 25, 2002 #83 of 670
    JPriller

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    I downloaded the non-Joliet version of the boot CD image mentioned on the above thread, located here, and that boots up fine.
     
  4. Jun 25, 2002 #84 of 670
    HTH

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    I checked mine. My /floppy directory (on the noJ image at least) was empty.

    Turns out Disk Tools for the Mac will recognize the floppy image and create the disk. This was on a Mac running Mac OS 9 and with a built-in floppy drive. Upgraded to 298 hours and change, more than doubling my existing capacity on my primary TiVo. Now I have a bunch of movies scheduled to record.

    But for some reason it worked only once, and I had to make the disk a second time with the Mac to get it working again. I made a point to write protect it the second time.
     
  5. Jun 26, 2002 #85 of 670
    charled

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    Another happy customer! Last night I upgraded my two DirecTiVos with MFSTools 2.0!

    When there were 80GB drives for $90 a couple of weeks ago, I thought about purchasing. But I decided to wait, because I really wanted 120GB drives so that I had room for 50 movies and 50 hours of regular programming on each TiVo (the 50/50 rule). So I waited, and got in on the 120GB for $109 deal at outpost. What a great deal! 4 hours after starting, MFSTools 2.0 got me to two TiVos with 146 hours each! Now I have room for about 100 hours of regular programming and 100 movies. My own personal TV server….mmmmmmm.

    One weird thing, probably not related to the upgrade, I have the two TiVos on two remote addresses (TiVo1 on 1 and TiVo2 on 2). However, last night in the middle of the night, TiVo1 got jealous and changed its remote address to 2. Hmmmm….

    I bought two Sony learning remotes for $110 from CC. I also jumped on the Minidishes.com deal for the Sony MRD-D1 video distribution for $90. What a steal, I bought 2 of them. And, you get the IR targets with them! So, now my system is two TiVos with about 300 hours total and the ability to watch them anywhere in the house (and control them in my family room and my bedroom). I’m in TV heaven! All I need is time to watch. I only watch about 5 hours a week, so maybe a little overkill….but now I get to choose what, when, and where!
     
  6. Jun 26, 2002 #86 of 670
    massimj

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    Jensen...
    I thought I was happy with one 80 GB drive , that added 4X of time for me, and the memory upgrade was worth while too. I am not going to put the new 120 GB drive I got from Outpost to my current Tivo, but I might put it in my second unit.
    I did order the new Blue remote that controls two Tivo's, and has a TV/Input button so I can change the input port on the TV without picking up another remote.
    The bad news was when I tried to get my Sony AV2000 to control my Tivo, or my Go Video DVD, or even a new Panasonic TV. I could get none of them to work with it. I found a remote for $17 that will do it all, but I don't like the layout of the buttons, and it will only control both Tivo's together, it can't distinguish between the two. I got fed up wit hthe AV-2000, and the new $17 remote. That's when I broke down and sent Tivo the money to send me one the the new Blue remote.
     
  7. Jun 26, 2002 #87 of 670
    NeZorf

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    When upgrading to a new drive while preserving recordings, is there a rule that says how much bigger the new drive has to be for all the -xxxx options to work? (ie, -xzpi)

    Most here are talking about upgrading that 30hr to a 120gb, so that is no challenge, but I want to know if upgrading that 13gb to a 15gb drive will work. Or what about from a drive that has (ie) LBA 100,000 to a new drive that has (ie) LBA 100,500, will that work? Not that I am upgrading from a 13gb to a 15gb myself, but I didn't see any mention of this in the MFSTOOL 2.0 hinsdale guide.

    The reason I ask is because of the slow menu speed I am experiencing and that I want to use the -p option to see if restructuring the partitions will help me out on my SA Tivo|1. So can I use the option 10#5 with the same exact HD models or does it have to be a little bigger, and how much bigger?
     
  8. Jun 27, 2002 #88 of 670
    xiaoyu

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    Hi Tager,

    Can your Mfs Tools 2.0 do all the things that Kazymyr's Boot Cd v2.6i does and more? I have Philips HDR-112 (software version 1.2.1 ?). Can I use your bootable cd to make backup and restoring?
    I have CD-RW. Can you explain the relationship in between Kazymyr's Boot Cd v2.6i, Tiger's Tools 1.1 and Tiger's bootable Cd 2.0?

    Xiaoyu,
     
  9. Jun 27, 2002 #89 of 670
    Andy in NYC

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    Massimj

    got www.remotecentral.com and pick up the ccf/programming files for your AV2000. The codes for these devices may not be currently available to you, but with a download (free) they are available.

    Andrew


     
  10. Jun 27, 2002 #90 of 670
    massimj

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    Jensen...
    The files I found at remote central were just a copy of what I got with my AV2000. I even went to Sony to find codes with no luck. Sonly has the worst support in the industry, but I love their products.
     
  11. Jun 27, 2002 #91 of 670
    NeZorf

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    A question about mfsbackup | mfsrestore while saving recordings.

    Would deleting the suggestions make the process faster?
    Or does mfs 2.0 just copy every sectore anyways like dd in this backup/restore case?

    Kind of late for me as I have started this process already and it estimates it will take me a couple of days for it to finish. :( I have a whole bunch of suggestions that I don't care for, would be a good idea to CRT-C the process and go back into Tivo to delete the suggestions and rerun the command??

    If it would be faster, we should update the hinsdale guide to note this to delete suggestions to make it faster....
     
  12. Jun 27, 2002 #92 of 670
    massimj

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    Jensen...
    I'm not saying I can answer your question, but I want to share an observation I had when I did my first system.
    The first time I did the dd I deleted my suggestions and and everything except for a few recordings. The dd ran faster than when I ran the disk back in my Tivo for about four days and did another dd.

    If the dd was a bit for bit copy of the drive, then why would it matter what was on the disk in the first place. Why would the time change to do the same task the second time?

    I did learn (from the Tivo guru's) that I didn't need my BIOS to handle the drives in order to use MFStools, or do the dd of the disks. You only need the Bios if you are going to boot from the hard drive. booting from the CDrom requires the BIOS, but once you get past that, the BIOS is not needed to handle any of the hard drive tasks.

    In any case, I didn't care about how long it took, it's just nice to know when to come back if you are waiting on it.

    Joe
     
  13. Jun 27, 2002 #93 of 670
    HTH

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    It is a sector-for-sector copy of the drive, and what you delete shouldn't matter. My guess is that, on the second copy, you had DMA enabled, or the drives were on separate buses (primary and secondary) the second time but were master and slave on the same bus the first time.

    Deletion should only affect backup & restore time with MFS Tools if you're copying all recordings.
     
  14. Jun 27, 2002 #94 of 670
    KoG

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    Tiger,

    Thank you for releasing such a wonderful tool for upgrading Tivos. I was able to upgrade my friend's Tivo to dual 120GB while preserving the previously recorded shows. Worked without a hitch.

    My question to you is, since this utility will work with Series 2 Tivo's, can it handle those >137GB drives? I believe the Series2 units have kernel support for those drives. I don't have a Series2 or any 160GB drives but was curious if you've tried it or have heard from anyone who has tried making a dual 160GB Series2 Tivo.

    -KoG
     
  15. Jun 28, 2002 #95 of 670
    DrBunsen

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    Woohoo!! This (early) morning I went from 60GB+80GB to 100GB+100GB (and went from 7200RPM drives to cooler 5400RPM drives in the process). This was for a Sony SAT-T60 DTivo. The copy took almost exactly 4 hours for my almost-full drives, but from what I can tell all recordings came across fine. I went from 124 hours to 180 hours.

    <edit>
    I got a message from someone saying that he'd done a double-drive upgrade and that it took (or was looking to take) 2 days to complete and that he'd heard that others had the same problem. So, in case this helps or doesn't help, here's 'zactly what I did:

    0) Read Hinsdale's instructions for MFS Tools v2. Decided to try section 10's option 5 (upgrading 2 drives at the same time).
    1) Pulled 60GB+80GB drives from DTiVo.
    2) Set them up as master & slave (not cable select) on primary IDE channel.
    3) Set up destination drives as master and slave on secondary IDE channel.
    4) Turned on PC (with Abit BE6-II motherboard, 1GHz Celeron, 512MB RAM).
    5) Checked to make sure all drives were recognized properly by the BIOS. BIOS reported correct size and that they were all running at 33MHz UDMA speeds.
    6) Since I'd set the original drives' acoustic management setting to 128, which sacrifices some performance for quietness during head seeks, I booted with a DOS floppy and used ATAAC.EXE to check settings (original drives (Seagate ATA IV drives) were still set to 128, and I was surprised to find that the new drives (CompUSA's boxed Maxtor drives) were set to 192), then set all acoustic dampening to OFF for all drives to maximize performance. (I wrote a long post about ATAAC.EXE about 8 to 10 months ago, do a search for it if you're not familiar with the utility.)
    7) Booted with the MFStools2 floppy, and checked to make sure that it reported the correct drive sizes.
    8) Did this command line (I changed the command that's in Hinsdale's instructions only slightly, by making taking out the extra space in the places where there were two spaces - I don't think that that should make any difference):

    mfsbackup -Tao - /dev/hda /dev/hdb | mfsrestore –s 128 -xzpi - /dev/hdc /dev/hdd

    9) Did my estimates and saw that it was going to take about 4 hours. Set my alarm and woke up 4.5 hours later (after multiple snoozes <grin>) and it was done. Did CTRL-ALT-DEL to shut down.
    10) Booted with DOS disk and used ATAAC.EXE to set acoustic management on the new drives to 128 (quietest level).
    11) Installed new drives in DTiVo and it came up beautifully, with my tons of recordings and suggestions intact.
    </edit>

    Thanks guys!


    Bunsen out....
     
  16. Jun 30, 2002 #96 of 670
    xiaoyu

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    Hi,

    I used Tiger's Mfs Tools 2.0 to convert dual drive TiVo(upgraded from single) to a large single drive. Everything looked OK, until I tested the backup. The TiVo went to Re-Boot loop between "recorder is starting up..." and "almost there...".
    According to "How-To", it seams to me there is a potential Re-Boot Loop problem with Mfs Tools 1.0 and it suggested to use Mfs Toos 1.1. I am using Mfs Tools 2.0 now, why does it still appear the problem? My TiVo software version is 1.3.1.

    Xiaoyu,
     
  17. Jun 30, 2002 #97 of 670
    kenr

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    Florham...
    Your problem is that your using old 1.3.1 software doesn't support non-Quantum drives unless you add runideturbo=false to the rc.sysinit file.
     
  18. Jun 30, 2002 #98 of 670
    xiaoyu

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    Hi kenr,

    I did performed the step that you mentioned. Without doing so, TiVo was stalled at the point "Recording is starting up...". I used Kazymyr's Boot Cd to perform that step due to I couldn't download the TiVOMad v3.2 (web site is not available). I think that is OK, since I did use Kazymyr's Boot Cd to practise once and worked for software 1.2.1 with non-Quantum drive.

    Xiaoyu,
     
  19. Jul 1, 2002 #99 of 670
    StuRothrock

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    Well. I read the complete thread and ws surprised not to find my problem addresses. I screwed up my partition 4 (3.0 installed) rc.sysinit so I had to remove the drive and use the boot cd with mfstools 2.0. The root partitions were not recognized. Tried booting with byteswap and kernel paniced.

    Soooo. Hmmm. Booted with boot cd with mfstools 1.2 and chose noswap and partition 4 was mountable. Partition 7 was never mountable after 2.5 to 3.0 upgrade. Don't attempt without runmyworld=false and handcraft=false!! Been there, did that, only once. >

    hda fat32
    hdb
    hdc single drive restore from combined dual drive 2.5
    hdd cdrom

    Don't know if anyone can shed some light on this. Anyway, I hope it helps someone else out. Thanks for everyone's help.

    BTW It was insmod -f nfs-2.0.1 or mount ip.ip.ip.ip:/tivo1 /var/nfs that caused rc.sysinit not to complete the exec bash command. #>#?
     
  20. Jul 1, 2002 #100 of 670
    HTH

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    Well, I'm getting fed up with my second TiVo that was expanded with MFS Tools 1.x from a 14hr image. As disk utilization grew through the recording of suggestions, stuttering has again increased to intolerable levels. Next upgrade, I'm taking my other TiVo's older configuration and imaging it with MFS Tools 2.0 to my problematic TiVo, rerunning Guided Setup to change source, and reprogramming all my Season Passes and Wishlists. That image is based upon an image of my mother's 30hr TiVo.

    And I'll probably end up enabling italic mode as the different TiVo Central backgrounds will no longer be the distinguishing characteristic (14hr has "PHILIPS Presents TiVo Central" in the animation, 30hr has "TiVo Central TiVo Central"). That, and no SUID "Welcome to the TiVolution" recording.

    It's like there's just something wrong with expanded 14hr TiVo images that 3.0 just doesn't like.

    Could MFS Tools 2.0 run a backup and restore to the same drives simultaneously, potentially repairing whatever problems I currently have? Running mfsfix on the PC? Note that previous attempts using earlier versions failed.
     

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