MFS Reformatter (mfsr)

Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by ggieseke, May 10, 2015.

  1. ggieseke

    ggieseke Well-Known Member

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    You'll probably have reformat it again. Just rerun MFSR.

    A good ballpark estimate is 160 hours per TB. On a Roamio you should see about 1260 hours with an 8TB drive.
     
  2. Snowball3

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    Thank you ggieseke. Do I need to delete all the recordings first or will running your MFSR Reformatter wipe the drive for me? Thank you for your reply!
     
  3. ggieseke

    ggieseke Well-Known Member

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    MFSR will wipe it.
     
  4. Snowball3

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    Thank you ggieske I will give it a try hopefully it goes well now that I have downgraded. I haven't had any issues with the drive so far so crossing my fingers for when i format it
     
  5. bhill1976

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    Need help with an MFSR Line 846 Error (IO_CTL_DISK_GET_DRIVE_LAYOUT_EX), please.

    Background:
    i successfully upgraded by TIVO Bolt to a 4TB Seagate STDR40000100 HD several years ago, but the drive recently failed. Purchased an identical replacement drive and attempted a sector by sector drive copy using ddrescue (unsuccessfully). I put the new drive in the TIVO, let the TIVO reformat the drive to fix a serious drive problem and ran guided setup (maybe my first mistake). I was at a point where I had 285 HD recording capacity (was expecting 600+). Now I'm trying to unlock the full 4TB disk space using the MFSR tool, but getting the error noted above.

    If I connect the drive to my windows 10 laptop, I can see it in device manager, but I can't see the drive in file explorer. I'm guessing the error is related to this. I tried initializing the disk, but was afraid to go so far as to format the disk with a new simple volume partition. I'm just technical enough to be dangerous :)

    Do I need to format the disk as NTFS or exFAT? Should I attempt to sector copy the disk again with ddresue to get me back to the point where TIVO can format the disk, but stop short of running guided setup? Is there an easy/simple way to get past the error and get the Bolt to recognize the 4TB on the disk.
     
  6. ThAbtO

    ThAbtO TiVoholic by the bay TCF Club

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    They should not be able to see anything about the drive except bios.

    No.
    Erase the drive, let the Tivo initialize it. Reconnect to PC. MSFR it. Ignore the errors. Note here the space allocated in MSFR. If it seems right, return it to Tivo.
     
  7. bhill1976

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    ThAbtO - Thanks for the quick response! Can I erase the drive using the commend prompt terminal to run diskpart and the clean command?
     
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  8. ggieseke

    ggieseke Well-Known Member

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    I haven't seen that error before, but there have been some issues with certain SD card readers. You might try temporarily disabling any unnecessary devices that Windows sees as a drive in Device Manager and try it again.

    Using the clean command in diskpart will work, but it's really easy to make a mistake and wipe the wrong drive. I usually recommend the write zeros test in WD's Data Lifeguard Diagnostics instead because you can see the make, model & serial number of the drive before committing to anything drastic.
     
  9. bhill1976

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    Thanks! Ended up using diskpart (the disk sizes made it obvious which disk I'd be wiping). I believe the problem comes down to my laptop having 2 internal drives. The second one is a small solid state drive that is supposed to improve performance and the MFSR must have been trying to read it and encountering an error. I got around this problem by running the MFSR tool on my daughter's laptop. The new drive is in the Bolt and showing over 600 hours of capacity. Thanks again for the help!
     
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    I connected a 3TB drive to my Bolt (via an external enclosure as described in this community) when I received it. It's been working fairly well, but occasionally reboots (as I'm reading about in this thread). However, I thought it might be the drive, so I decided it was time to bite the bullet and upgrade it via MFSR. MFSR worked just fine. The system goes through setup just fine, gets program info just fine, loads it all, then starts organizing it (I've never seen it do that before). After about 3 minutes of "organizing", it reboots and starts the setup process from the beginning. Any ideas as to what's wrong? I used MFSR 1.0.0.4 and I'm on the latest Bolt OS.
     
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  11. Johnny Danger

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    Are we suppose to use MFSR 1.0.0.4 or MFS Tools 3.2 ?????

    I wish there was a basic walkthough or guide that you could follow step by step directions instead of trying to piece together fragments off forum and internet.
     
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  12. ThAbtO

    ThAbtO TiVoholic by the bay TCF Club

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    MFSR is just a program to expand what a Roamio or Bolt stopped at when preparing the drive, at 3TB, for larger drives to use the full space.

    You would need MFSTools 3.3x to do backup/restore. It would keep all settings/passes, etc. While MFSR is starting anew.
     
  13. Johnny Danger

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    The " MFSR1004.zip" max size hard drive is only 8TB max?

    What about 10TB, 12TB or 14TB hard drive?

    It would be easier if the software just worked on the larger drive instead of forcintg you to make an expanded tivo drive with a smaller drive then having to boot your computer from a USB drive into some command line interface to have to manually clone and apply fixes to the drive?

    That MFSR1004 software just ran from windows and took a few seconds. Very fast and easy to run this process.

    Is there anyway to request this softare work on up to 14TB drive from the developer?
    This feature would be greatly appreciated.
     
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  14. CrashHD

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    This stuff is a continual work in progress. The methods evolve over time. These guys have done this for free, done an outstanding job, and don't owe anyone anything, and still help a lot of people with what amounts to basically hand holding on an already easy process. I really don't think complaints about how this easy process might be easier are properly called for. If this isn't easy enough for you, there is always weaknees. They have two levels of more easier, drop in drives, or send them your tivo and do it for you.
    If you want do DIY, then do your part. If you need to ask for help, fine, but try not to leave a post that is just dripping with backhanded complaint about how the process isn't easy enough for you.
     
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  15. CrashHD

    CrashHD I am the me.

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    So I'm looking for an idea here.
    Every few years, I upgrade my tivo hard drives, and retire the former tivo drives to a less stressful life. "Put them out to pasture" so to speak...

    I'm also going to cable, so I have a new (to me) Roamio Plus. I have a 14 TB drive to put in it. I know I could use MFSTools 3.2's new method to use the full capacity of the drive, but here's the part where I'm getting a little greedy.

    I'd like to optimize the partition layout such that all MFS partitions are their full 2TB (give or take a tiny bit) potential size. Is there a way I can get mfsr to do it's thing on the first 8.0TB of the drive (giving me 4 2.0TB partitions), and then use MFS Tools 3.2 to expand out the rest of the way?
    MFSR errors out upon noticing the drive is too big.
    I've tried limiting the drive to 8TB using HPA with ATAtool. MFSR crashes with an error. I'll have to repeat this process again and note the specific error when I get back to this (running out of time today).
    It was suggested to me to use hdparm, and I tried that first, but it was not present on the mfstools image. I tried ATAtool instead. Possibly the next thing to try is getting a more full featured linux environment and trying hdparm again.
    What I am pursuing is the idea that if I start with 8TB in 4 partitions via MFSR, 24TB is the theoretical maximum potential of the DVR. I tend to run my hardware deep into obsolescence, and I am a digital hoarder, so the possibility I could one day use a 24TB tivo is realistic. I'm also working toward less tivos and bigger of them by having one big dvr and minis.
     
  16. ggieseke

    ggieseke Well-Known Member

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    I sent you a beta version of MFSR that formats drives over 8TB. It just ignores the extra space and treats the drive as a WD80EFZX so that you can use MFS Tools 3.3 from there.
     
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  17. Johnny Danger

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    Where did you send the beta version of MFSR to?

    Thanks.
     
  18. ggieseke

    ggieseke Well-Known Member

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    I sent a link to CrashHD via conversations.
     
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    CrashHD

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    I been delayed in testing it. The new drive doesn't pass WD's diagnostic test. I'm thinking of sending it back for warranty.
     
  20. halloran

    halloran New Member

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    Hello gang

    Trying to get a Bolt+ up and running. Original 3TB drive failed a few years ago (as most of them did). Replaced with a WD Red 6TB in Rosewill enclosure direct sata to the motherboard, that drive just died. I have a freshly shucked WD 10TB white label ready to be "TiVo'ed". My understanding is that if I want more than 8TB to be usable, I'll need an experimental version of MFSR and then I'll also need to use MFS Tools. If I just do the MFSR part now, can I do the MFS Tools later without destroying recordings, or do I have to do everything now? Where might I obtain the necessary version of MFSR?

    Thanks for the help
     

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