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  1. ThAbtO

    ThAbtO TiVoholic by the bay TCF Club

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    If this is a 6 tuner Roamio Plus/Pro, then the power supply is internal, unlike the 4 tuner Roamio Basic/OTA which is a power brick.
     
  2. jmbach

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    This UPS is what I have on two of my TiVos.
    What model Roamio you have.
     
  3. Nov 1, 2019 #1383 of 1424
    Snowball3

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    I have TiVo - Roamio OTA 1TB Digital Video Recorder - Model: TCD846000. The power is 12 VDC. I believe it is a 4 turner. I love your UPS jmbach that is pretty awesome. I will have to see if my tivo can be saved first. Since my tivo is a power brick like Thabt0 said. Then perhaps it can be swapped out with something more powerful? If someone could recommend what should work or a link to one I would very much appreciate it. It would be nice to test that out before I got to the hassle of swapping everything. Has anyone else had to swap the power out on their Tivo Roamio Ota? Thank you once again for the help!
     
  4. Nov 1, 2019 #1384 of 1424
    jmbach

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    LiteON Laptop Charger AC Adapter Power Supply PA-1041-71 12V 3.33A 40W is the one I use with my basic Roamio 6 TB.
     
  5. Nov 1, 2019 #1385 of 1424
    Snowball3

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    Thank you for the quick reply. I believe this is the one you have?

    https://www.amazon.com/Lite-PA-1041-71-Replacement-adapter-Monitor/dp/B0163TBWNK

    Just curious if my Roamio has a power of 12 VDC what is the difference with a power of 12 V. I dont know anything about voltage and just wanted to make sure this has the correct power to work with my tivo with the 8tb hook up before I buy. Thank you all for your help!
     
  6. Nov 1, 2019 #1386 of 1424
    ThAbtO

    ThAbtO TiVoholic by the bay TCF Club

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    My Roamio Basic which currently have a 4TB WD40EFRX and its original power brick, is running strong for over 4 years. Its only 35% full.
     
  7. Nov 2, 2019 #1387 of 1424
    jmbach

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    The adapter is 12 VDC which is what your Roamio runs on. It just can provide extra amperage when the Roamio calls for it.

    The one that comes with the Roamio is usually adequate. It would be nice if all adapters provided the power that is marked on them but in reality it is the average of what it is designed for. So there is a small +- range of what you are getting from the number stamped on the adapter. If your adapter is on the - side and you put a larger drive in, the power may not be sufficient in all operational states and you could have glitches. Anything from pixelation to reboots.
     
  8. Nov 2, 2019 #1388 of 1424
    Snowball3

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    Thank you for replying and explaining that to me. What I am gathering with a power adapter I need to make sure it says 12v. Could this 12v power adapter work just as well?

    https://www.bestbuy.com/site/yamaha-ac-power-adapter-black/9658108.p?skuId=9658108

    I only ask because it is not only cheaper but something I can easily and quickly return and try something else if it does not work instead of having to ship it back and forth. Or would you suggest I stay with what you originally stated?

    man ThAbto you are lucky! I feel like I am the only one who is having these reboot problems. I don't want to give up on it now after putting so much money in. I am hopeful for this to FINALLY be the fix. But it looks like I am going to have to try and swap back to the original hard drive and see how that performs. But it is such a hassle I am trying these last ditch efforts first lol.
     
  9. Nov 2, 2019 #1389 of 1424
    jmbach

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    That one will not work because the amperage is less than the TiVo adapter. If you do not want to get the one I use, then you will need to make sure of several things when choosing a replacement power adapter. The replacement needs to be 12 VDC, at least 2.5 anp rating, the barrel size and polarity needs to be the same as the TiVos.
     
  10. Nov 2, 2019 #1390 of 1424
    Snowball3

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    I am in over my head and you obviously know way more than I do. So I will just trust the one that you are using since I know for sure that it will work.

    Just to confirm is this the one you are using?

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0163TBWNK?tag=vglnk-c830-20

    ^ I wanted to double check because I didn't see anything about 12vdc or at least 2.5 anp rating that you mentioned I needed and I didn't want to get the wrong one by mistake.
    Thank you for being so helpful and I apologize for bothering you with this lol
     
  11. Nov 2, 2019 #1391 of 1424
    jmbach

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    After doing some research, looks like it is no longer being manufactured and you can get old new stock.

    I'll see if I can find a suitable replacement. In the meantime get the UPS and that might solve it all.
     
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  12. Nov 3, 2019 #1392 of 1424
    Snowball3

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    Thank you for taking the time to look for a replacement for me. I am looking into the UPS you mentioned. Hate to throw so much more money at it like this but I think it has a chance of being the problem. Perhaps some of the changes in power/surges from various things turning on and off (the furnace? dryer?) maybe they temporarily disrupt the power going to the tivo and it causing these reboots. I am just guessing or hoping lol.

    From my understanding the UPS carries an uninterrupted power supply so when my tivo is plugged in all those problems of things turning on and any surges causing these reboots should be eliminated? Is that correct or am I way off again lol.

    Thank you all for your help!
     
  13. Nov 3, 2019 #1393 of 1424
    ThAbtO

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    A brownout is when the power dips, like when you turn on a heavy power use device like the furnace heater and you see your lights dim, and brightens back up when it comes back up.

    That is what UPS stands for.

    It will help with brownouts by switching to the battery until the power returns to proper voltage. There are also more expensive models that are SMART UPS, where it draws more power to bring the power back to standard for devices. It can do this indefinitely because it does not draw from the battery, unlike regular UPS. When power returns, the battery gets recharged.

    It does not matter what size UPS you use as Tivo does not consume lots of power. A computer that consumes more power will make the battery last shorter. The main point of a UPS is to allow proper shutdown of computers when there is a power failure.
     
  14. Nov 4, 2019 #1394 of 1424
    Snowball3

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    Thank you ThAbtO for explaining that to me! It sounds to me like a Smart UPS is the way to go. Unfortunately they are very expensive. The only ones I could find around $200.00 are these 3.

    1) https://www.amazon.com/Tripp-Lite-L..._54?keywords=smart+ups&qid=1572859436&sr=8-54

    2) https://www.amazon.com/APC-Smart-UP..._21?keywords=smart+ups&qid=1572859320&sr=8-21

    3) https://www.amazon.com/Tripp-Lite-B..._1_6?keywords=smart+ups&qid=1572859232&sr=8-6

    ^ I believe this is what you are talking about when you say Smart UPS. I know it states it on the title but just making sure. I had originally planned to go with what jmbach recommended..

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000FBK3QK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_z4KUDb7BG13MC


    You mentioned that tivo doesn't consume that much power. I don't want to over pay when I don't have to. But I also want this problem to be over with lol. Let's say the problem is these brownouts where the power dips and some other device may be hogging up the power. If it were something like a dryer that would only be for like an hour. But if it were like a furnace in the winter that could be a long time. If I got a UPS System and I only hooked up the tivo to it and nothing else to conserve as much of the battery as possible. Do you think my best bet is a Smart UPS or could I manage with a less expensive "regular UPS" ? If I went with just a regular one and hooked just a tivo up to it do you think the "CyberPower CP1500AVRLCD Intelligent LCD UPS System, 1500VA/900W" is overkill? Or would something cheaper work just as well. There are many UPS Systems out there but what specs I need is where I am unsure. Trying to find the cheapest solution lol. Thank you again for being so helpful!
     
  15. Nov 4, 2019 #1395 of 1424
    ThAbtO

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    The bigger the VA/W is, the longer the UPS can support the devices connected. For example, A UPS that supports a PC for an hour can support a Tivo, that is the only device connected, for up to 4 hours. Include the TV and it can cut it down to 1 1/2 hours. (This is just for example and would not be exact in the real world.)
     
  16. Nov 4, 2019 #1396 of 1424
    ej42137

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    Lots of people have reported their TiVo external power supplies failing; I myself had to replace two of them out of four.

    These power supplies produce Direct Current; 12 V and 12 VDC are the same in this context, 12 volts of direct current. You need exactly 12 volts and at least as much amperage as the TiVo power supply. I replaced my TiVo power supplies with the KNACRO AC 100-240V to DC 12V 8A 8.5A 102W Switching Power Supply Adapter DC 5.5mm X 2.5mm Plug 12V 8.5A Power Supply.

    As you realize, if the problem happens without a UPS, the UPS is not the cause of the problem. Getting a good UPS is an excellent idea (I don't have any TiVos not connected to a smart UPS) but I would focus on the power supply issue first. If a new PS doesn't fix your problem, you've either got a bad hard drive or your TiVo's electronics are buggered somehow. Or your house current is incredibly bad and your UPS is not doing its job.
     
  17. Nov 5, 2019 #1397 of 1424
    3 Cushion John

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    Have Bolt 500. Installed new 2T drive and stuck in Start up. Thoughts plz?
     
  18. Nov 5, 2019 #1398 of 1424
    ggieseke

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    The only thing I can think of is to try zeroing the drive with WD's Data Lifeguard Diagnostics, then try again.

    Bolts running recent versions of TE4 just seem to reject some drives during the auto-format process. You might also be able to roll it back to TE3 on the factory drive and get the new 2TB properly formatted before going back to TE4.
     
  19. Nov 5, 2019 #1399 of 1424
    3 Cushion John

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    Thank you very much. Have DoD zeroing out software, will run that on new drv and try again.
     
  20. Nov 5, 2019 #1400 of 1424
    jmbach

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    What is the model number of the drive
     

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