MFS Reformatter (mfsr)

Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by ggieseke, May 10, 2015.

  1. Apr 1, 2019 #1301 of 1331
    dougdingle

    dougdingle HD Tech

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    Five years is a decent span, considering the drive is working 24/7. You didn't mention which manufacturer's drive and model it was.

    You can always buy two WD RED drives and a cloning dock, and clone the current one to the other one, rotating them every 90 days (or whatever you like). I've been doing that with a pair of 4TB drives for a few years years now. The drives will last longer (twice as long, maybe), and additionally, you don't lose more than 90 days of recordings if one drive goes belly up.
     
  2. JulianSF

    JulianSF Jack of all trades, master of none!

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    Hello everyone - I am a complete newbie at trying to upgrade my Roamio. I am not really a techy person, but can maneuver around a PC. I have Windows 10 and I updated my Tivo's software to the latest, but not the greatest. I was using a Seagate 4T hard drive and was able to get to the first page on Tivo when it asks which country you are from. Everything went well until I tried to run the MFSR tool. It did it's thing, then when I tried to put the new hard drive into my Tivo, all lights started to flash. I placed the original drive back in the Tivo and it booted up fine. Having said that, I don't know what to do now. In reading this thread, it looks like some folks have mentioned that they ran some kind of software to check if there were errors on the hard drive. This is something I don't know how to use. :-(

    Having said what my problem is, does anyone know what I should do next? Should I just have the drive I am trying to upgrade just reformatted? Which version of the MFSR should I be using? This is where I am stumped. UGH!
     
  3. jmbach

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    What model drive is it and model Roamio?

    I would run the manufacturer's diagnostic on it first doing a complete read and write.
     
  4. JulianSF

    JulianSF Jack of all trades, master of none!

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    First of all thank you for getting back to me. I have a couple Tivos I want to do this with and was attempting this with a Roamio first.

    The Roamio model is TCD84800 - the hard drive was taken from back up box - It's Seagate Desktop - I dowloaded the Seagate tool for Windows, but when I launch the software, it does not recognize the drive.

    I checked the Disk Management, and on the left it shows the Drive with a red down arrow, underneath that is shows Unknown, 3.86 GB, Not Initialized..... On the right side it shows 3.86 GB Unallocated. Does this make sense to you? As I mentioned, I am a newbie at using Disk Management...
     
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  5. jmbach

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    What is the model of the drive. I would expect 3.86 TB not GB
     
  6. JulianSF

    JulianSF Jack of all trades, master of none!

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    It's a Seagate ST4000DM000, 4TB
     
  7. ggieseke

    ggieseke Well-Known Member

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    The red arrow in Disk management just means that your computer has classified the disk as offline for some reason. You can right-click the drive to bring it back online, then try SeaTools again. It will probably still show up in Disk Management as Unknown, but that's okay because Windows doesn't understand the format that TiVo uses anyway.

    If Seatools still won't see it, try WD's Data Lifeguard Diagnostics to test the drive. I recommend running the full Write Zeros followed by the long read test.

    Once you know that the drive is good, put it in the Roamio and let it come up to the first screen in Guided Setup. Hook it back up to the computer and run MFSR. It should select the drive automatically and let you reformat it to use the full 4TB. Once that's done it's ready.
     
  8. JulianSF

    JulianSF Jack of all trades, master of none!

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    I tried the WD Data Lifeguard, and it did recognize the drive, but when I tried to erase the Full Data option, I got a window that said Delete Particians Error. I also tried the following SMART, QUICK ERASE, got all test failed - here is what it showed for all tests:

    Test Option: ERASE
    Model Number: Seagate Expansion Desk
    Unit Serial Number: NA4K6QTK
    Firmware Number: 070B
    Capacity: 4000.79 GB
    SMART Status: Not Available
    Test Result: FAIL
    Test Error Code: 20- Delete Partitions error!
    Test Time: 10:07:48, April 14, 2019


    Test Option: EXTENDED TEST
    Model Number: Seagate Expansion Desk
    Unit Serial Number: NA4K6QTK
    Firmware Number: 070B
    Capacity: 4000.79 GB
    SMART Status: Not Available
    Test Result: FAIL
    Test Error Code: 08-Too many bad sectors detected.
    Test Time: 10:08:08, April 14, 2019


    Test Option: QUICK TEST
    Model Number: Seagate Expansion Desk
    Unit Serial Number: NA4K6QTK
    Firmware Number: 070B
    Capacity: 4000.79 GB
    SMART Status: Not Available
    Test Result: FAIL
    Test Error Code: 08-Too many bad sectors detected.
    Test Time: 10:08:25, April 14, 2019


    Test Option: ERASE
    Model Number: Seagate Expansion Desk
    Unit Serial Number: NA4K6QTK
    Firmware Number: 070B
    Capacity: 4000.79 GB
    SMART Status: Not Available
    Test Result: FAIL
    Test Error Code: 20- Delete Partitions error!
    Test Time: 11:44:24, April 14, 2019

    Do you think this disk is just fried?
     
  9. jmbach

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    I would say so.

    However, if this drive came out of an enclosure, it might be encrypted with a password. In that case, it will only work when it is in the enclosure it came out of. You can put it back in the enclosure and run the same tests and see if you get the same results.

    If you get the same results, then yes it is fried.
     
  10. JulianSF

    JulianSF Jack of all trades, master of none!

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    Thanks for the info - I decided to just ditch the Seagate and go with the WD40EFRX - it seems that people like this drive and it seems to have minimal issues.

    I do have a question about the version of MFSR I should be using - it seems that there is the MFSR 1002, 1003 and 1004. Is there a preferred one for the Roamio? Also, are these the same steps to upgrade a Bolt?
     
  11. ThAbtO

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    It can work on a Bolt. You just have to use 2.5 inch laptop drives. They fail more often then the 3.5 inch drives.
     
  12. ggieseke

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    Always use the latest version (1004).
     
  13. JulianSF

    JulianSF Jack of all trades, master of none!

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    SUCCESS!!!!

    This is fantastic!

    Thank you jmback & ggieseke for all of your help on this!

    P.S. - made donation - thanks for all the hard work to all who made this possible.
     
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  14. Shave Jacket

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    So I'm having some trouble getting my Bolt back up and running. I got the dreaded 4 flashing lights a week ago and decided to go the external 8TB WD red HD in an external case route. I have done all the mods and got everything I believe hooked up correctly. Then I powered up the Bolt with the new HD for the first time ... let everything initialize and then unplugged the Bolt once it asked for a country. I ran the most up to date MSFR on the new HD (I'm using Windows 10 but ran it in Windows 7 compatibility mode) and got no issues. MSFR completed and told me to re-connect the HD to the Bolt and power up. I did this and while my TIVO will power on and gives me a startup screen. It goes black after a minute or so and then does nothing at all. I just have a green light on the bolt but no actual output through the HDMI port. Any ideas what may be causing this? Any suggestions for next steps? Thanks for any help!
     
  15. jmbach

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    Recommend doing a complete write and read on the 8 TB drive and the repeat the procedure.
     
  16. Shave Jacket

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    Please forgive my ignorance but how do I do a complete write and read on the new HD? I’ve done some googling on it but I’m not really sure exactly what I’m supposed to be doing.

    Happy Easter all.
     
  17. jmbach

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    You can download WD diagnostic
     
  18. dougdingle

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    As jmbach said, download the WD diagnostics for Windows from the WD site, hook the 8TB drive to an actual SATA port in the computer (I've had issues using a USB3 dock and USB3 adapters for this), then select the drive, and select "Erase" then "Full Erase", followed by "Extended Test" when the erase is complete. If everything passes, try the procedure again.

    Make sure you select the correct drive in the WD Diagnostics - there's no coming back from a full erase once it starts.
     
  19. Shave Jacket

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    Just to make sure I'm using the right program we are talking about WD Data LifeGuard Diagnostics program right?

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  20. jmbach

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    Yes
     

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