Metagenerator 3 -- Support & Downloads

Discussion in 'TiVo Home Media Features & TiVoToGo' started by dlfl, Jun 7, 2018.

  1. elprice7345

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    Working for me this morning. Another TiVo middlemind glitch?

    Wow... between the TiVo glitch and the TVDB slowness/downtime this weekend ...
     
  2. dlfl

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    Ver. 3.90 released. See first post for downloads and changes. This version is almost functionally identical to test distro 3.90C9 but includes a couple of improvements in handling unexpected errors in theTVDB results.
     
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    Feasibility of MG3 Retrieving TV Metadata from TMDB?

    @dlfl – would you be interested in adding TMDB as a source for TV metadata? I know you like to keep your programming skills in up to date. ;)

    The application I use to manage my media, JRiver Media Center may be forced to switch from looking up metadata from TVDB to TMDB because of licensing issues.

    I don’t know that it is necessary yet, just asking what kind of effort is required on your part and if you have any interest?

    If we go down that road, I would be happy to do all the testing required.

    Some Background:
    I use JRMC to manage all my media – photos, music, movies, & TV shows. It is a great application with a lot of capability for a very reasonable price.

    My high-level process:
    1. Download from TiVo
    2. Rename with MG3 to match TVDB metadata
    3. Manage with JRMC
    4. Pull to TiVo and play
    Recently, TVDB was purchased by Whip Media and they have subsequently raised the licensing fees. This led to JRiver not licensing and then TVDB cutting off API access to JRMC: TheTVDB lookup broken
     
  4. dlfl

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    Probably could do that, as you say, if necessary. I recently added movie metadata lookup via TMDB to another program I author, VAP6 (link in signature) and I noticed then that apparently TMDB also provides TV show info.

    Of course MG3 doesn’t pay for theTVDB since it’s a free program. I would wonder if they would want to start restricting free access since, as I understand it, their database is updated by volunteers (such as yourself) who presumably would be reluctant to continue that work if their reward was to have to pay for access. I suppose they could implement a rate structure based on query counts but I would wonder if MG3 would even hit such a limit given the small number of users lately, at least based on download counts in the first post.
     
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    elprice7345

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    Thanks for the response @dlfl! I'll keep you posted regarding JRiver/TVDB negotiations

    The main TVDB guy did respond to my post on the JRiver thread, so maybe there's hope. :)

    No progress yet, but I expect it could take a few days to sort out licensing issues between companies.
     
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    Soapm

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    This explains it, I went to rename a movie today and it times out no matter what movie name I put in.
     
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    dlfl

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    ??? TVDB problems would not explain movie lookup issues, since movie searches use only TMDB.
     
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    Soapm

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    I guess something was down last night because it's working now. Thanks.
     
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    @dlfl - It looks like my media management app, JRMC, isn't going to resume integrating with TVDB and all future metadata will be retrieved from TMDB.

    What will it take to add TMDB as a source for metadata for MG3?

    What can I do to help?
     
  10. dlfl

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    I’m in the mood for a programming exercise so I’ll work on it.
     
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  11. elprice7345

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    Thanks @dlfl!

    Let me know what I can do to help! :)
     
  12. dlfl

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    Progress report: TMDb sourcing of TV Series metadata is breathing to the point where it searches and lists series. It provides a "name" and an "original name" for each series, which usually are the same. Any idea which one is preferable for MG3 purposes?
     
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    elprice7345

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    Good news on your progress! :)

    I'm not sure about the names @dlfl? It probably has something to do with language?

    TV series on TMDB can have "Original Name", "Translated Name", and "Alternative Name".

    Take a look at this South Korean series with the series title translated into several languages: https://www.themoviedb.org/tv/70593/edit?active_nav_item=primary_facts

    Here's another example from Sweden:
    https://www.themoviedb.org/tv/45016-bron-broen/edit?active_nav_item=primary_facts

    Let me know if that helps.
     
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    dlfl

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    Try test distro ver 3.91T5 in attached zip.
    Ver. 3.91T5 (2 August 2020)
    Enhanced: Can select TMDb database for TV Series searches. (Test version)

    The database selection is persistent between runs.

    @elprice7345 I can't remember why we included the tvdb id as the last item on each line in the knownSeriesIds.txt file. I think it was done just as a convenience, perhaps for your use? It is also available via the TMDb API, so I have continued to put it there, even when searching TMDb.
     

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    elprice7345

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    Thanks @dlfl! Busy today ... will try to test tomorrow.
     
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    dlfl

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    @elprice7345 I found the following on the old pyTiVo forum, which explains why the TVDB ID was included on knownSeriesIds lines:
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    @dlfl wrote:
    Surprised at your desire for the TVDB seriesId. What potential use do you envision for that? The other 3 items are the same ones that MG3 needs for internal use to avoid repeating seriesId RPC searches.

    @elprice7345 response:
    Not sure that we do need it. I’m just looking down the road to the time if and when we load these results into TVDB. Loading data is much easier if you have the unique ID rather than the name.

    If it’s more work for you, leave it out. We don’t know if we’ll ever be able to put the TiVo seriesId in the TVDB. [​IMG] Just trying to future proof a little ...
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    What do you think about removing that item? Backwards compatibility would be maintained of course.
     
  17. Aug 4, 2020 #557 of 647
    elprice7345

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    Sorry @dlfl, I'm still tied up and it will be later this week before I can give you any feedback.
     
  18. Karen St Martin

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    I just found out about MetaDataGenerator and used it on my movie files and it worked perfectly. When I tried it on my TV Series videos it renamed ALL of them to Sesson Number+Episode Number. Does anyone how a clue as to what is going on?

    Thanks!

    Karen
     
  19. PSU_Sudzi

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    There are settings in it I believe that will rename items for you, check through them and adjust as needed.
     
  20. elprice7345

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    @PSU_Sudzi is correct.

    Click the gear icon to open the settings tab and look at the TV Show template. I don't remember what the default is.

    At the bottom left of the same screen, there is a drop-down with the list of available metadata tags.

    My template is {title}-S{seasonnum}E{epnum}-{eptitle} which yields: "The 100-S07E01-From the Ashes.ts"
     

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