Major update coming before July according to CNET

Discussion in 'TiVo Stream 4K' started by GBK33, Jun 17, 2020.

  1. NashGuy

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    TiVo has a name not because of their existing legacy user base but because they were themselves an innovator and disruptor in TV technology back in 1999 when they introduced the original DVR. They're just trying to cash in on whatever familiarity and good will still exists among the general public for the TiVo brand with their new streamer.

    Now, I didn't say that the TS4K is going to be a success for them. As you say, they're breaking into this market years too late. What I am saying is that tying the product to their legacy install base wouldn't be enough to help the product succeed if it wasn't going to any way because the legacy base is so small. And keep in mind that adding and supporting a feature like that has costs of its own. I assume TiVo did the math and decided it just doesn't make sense.
     
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  2. NashGuy

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    What differentiates the TS4K is the TiVo Stream app that comes pre-loaded on it and is exclusive to the device. Sadly, from what I read on this forum, it doesn't sound like it does as good a job of aggregating, integrating and tracking content from various sources than the free ReelGood app for Android TV. It does include the free TiVo+ streaming channels (meh) and I suspect that the ad revenue that TiVo hopes to make from those channels, as well as the user data they collect throughout the Stream app, are the main ways TiVo aims to profit from the device. (I doubt they're making much, if any, profit on the hardware itself at $50. Maybe they get a kickback from Google for sales and subscriptions through the Google Play store that are initiated on the device? Not sure how Google handles the relationship with OEMs that license Android TV from them for retail devices.)

    It sounds like TiVo is moving pretty quickly to squash their bugs on the TS4K. But they'll need to also improve the functionality of the TiVo Stream app if they want lots of folks to buy the device and regularly use the app. Frankly, I have a hard time seeing the TS4K breaking through with the public to the extent necessary for it to really take off. They need to advertise it more.
     
  3. GBK33

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    They have advertised it, but have slowed down a bit. My guess is they are trying to fix the bugs first and then ramp advertising back up. They next big bug fix is supposed to be before July. Looks like they may miss that deadline. Something they have gotten good at.
     
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    Considering this is the last day of June I don't think they are going to make it.
     
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  5. jaselzer

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    Tivo= Consistently inconsistent:)
     
  6. BillyClyde

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    TiVo:

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  7. mschnebly

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    I have an Nvidia Shield too. I would have thought that Tivo could have put their app on android tv since it works pretty darn well and just have the Tivo part of it to have problems to work out. Why would they take away from the device so many of the settings? They could have just moved them to an advanced settings menu folder and warned folks to use at their own risk. I try these boxes and then I go back to my Apple TV 4k and appreciate how solid it is. Their TV app is getting better all the time.
     
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  8. NashGuy

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    Yeah, I've wondered too why TiVo doesn't roll out their TiVo Stream app, with TiVo+ content built-in, to other devices. Initially, I would've thought that they couldn't deep-link to content in other apps (e.g. Netflix, Hulu, etc.) unless it was on their own device. But that's apparently not true on Android TV, because ReelGood is doing it. They've released their app (which is similar to TiVo Stream but without TiVo+ or integration with Sling) on the Google Play Store and apparently any Android TV device, such as the Shield TV, can access it.

    Yeah, I really like my Apple TV 4K too. Although I'm curious about trying out Google's upcoming Android TV device, assuming they really sweat the details and make it a polished product. Google has a pretty mixed track record in that regard, so we'll see...
     
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  9. vurbano

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    I hope HBOmax wasnt the "big" update. I have 4 of these devices and I will think that ethernet is working fine and then it will disconnect, or one wont connect at all, or when connected the Mbbs is 50-100 compared to 250 Mbps over wifi. Absolutely flakey. For now ethernet cables are disconnected until they fix their sh*t
     
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    Posted on Reddit by Tivopm - [Removed dead link]

     
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  11. jaselzer

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    Access to the web address is blocked
     
  12. Alex_7

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    I’m curious, what Ethernet adapter are you using?
     
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