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Madam Secretary, Season 5 (**Spoilers**)

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by Mikeguy, Oct 8, 2018.

  1. Steveknj

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    I would imagine that Sec'y of State's, good ones, seek advice from previous ones all the time. They've been there, and to me that's learning from history. How would you handle this or that? It leads to a much more informed decision. I think HRC has mentioned that she's talked to them on numerous occasions. I don't think it's out of character at all. It WAS weirdly written and presented though.
     
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    I'm not sure why you're quoting my response about Stevie becoming the full time assistant here. :)

    I already said in a previous post I know that of course they consult with the former occupants of the office on matters... it was just the way it was written as an excuse for the 3 of them to give speeches of their own. I don't have any problem with the content of what they were saying, it just made the scene weird. :)
     
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    Quoted the wrong one, ooops.
     
  5. Mikeguy

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    When I compare "The West Wing" and "Madam Secretary," I'm not doing so in terms of pace or subject matter, or cultdom--I do enjoy "Madam Secretary," including its personal dynamics (those often were the parts of "The West Wing" that I enjoyed the most.) I'm really doing it on the basis of the writing. While it appears that I'm in the minority here in enjoying this season premiere episode, the episode also demonstrates the sometimes writing challenges that the series faces, where you almost can feel a chugga-chugga-chugga in the writing.
     
  6. laria

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    I thought most of the episode was perfectly fine... it was only the weird scene with Powell/Clinton/Albright that I disliked. :)
     
  7. JYoung

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    Just to note that Albright had previously been on the show when Elizabeth consulted with her on the crisis of the week.
    (They met on a park bench.)

    That made sense and felt more natural as opposed to the three being at Foggy Bottom clumsily making the point of the episode.

    The former felt organic while the latter seemed forced and ham handed.
     
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    Ah that's right, I was thinking she'd been on Parks & Recreation, but forgot that she was also previously on this as well. :)
     
  9. Mikeguy

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    What some people will do to get their SAG card.
     
  10. Jon J

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    (Nitpick) I'm not all that familiar with DC but I thought the CIA campus was on the outskirts rather than downtown Foggy Bottom. (/Nitpick)
     
  11. Steveknj

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    I *think* Foggy Bottom is where the State Dept is.
     
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    It is... I'm not sure why the CIA was brought into it. :)
     
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    Pretty sure that the CIA is in Langley, VA.
    (Or at least that's what they want us to believe.)

    Foggy Bottom is a neighborhood in DC. It's also where the Truman building is and as such Department of State HQ has picked up the nickname "Foggy Bottom" in Government circles.
     
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    Huge mistake on my part. Brain disengaged.
     
  15. Mikeguy

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    CIA, State Dept. Some people say, no difference. ;)
     
  16. Cainebj

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    The second episode was quite chilling - especially since I had no idea anything like that was happening in Poland - where apparently it has been...

    I thought he was winning the kid over the finale of that scene what he said and did (that spit) was kinda shocking...

    Everywhere she goes, she is surrounded by secret service but it's OK for her to walk through a park in Berlin by herself? Say what?
     
  17. Steveknj

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    Maybe they are lurking in the background? Or maybe the meeting with the Russian was agreed to with just them.
     
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    My favorite line of the episode from Stevie (paraphrasing) - I've given up trying to understand what is going on in Westworld. I laughed cos I feel the same.
     
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