Mad Men "The Runaways" 5/11/2014

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  1. JoeyJoJo

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    Yep, but he's betting that Phillip Morris will now want him on the account and it will nullify that.

    Dick Whitman has always gotten ahead by having the balls to just take what he wanted.

    He took Don Draper's dog tags.

    He got Roger drunk and just showed up at work the next morning, Telling Roger that he had hired him.

    Women, women, women.

    This is the way he's always won.
     
  2. betts4

    betts4 I am Spartacus!

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    Well, if he didn't know what the script was when he showed up, how could he "go by it".

    I am sorry that it took this long into the season to get him moving, but nice to see him back.
     
  3. zalusky

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    It's only been five episodes from his being put on leave till this moment.
    That's not that long especially given they wanted to show him being lost in all his relationships. I think if they wrapped it up in 3 episodes from being dumped till the magic moment it would be a little "Drop Dead Diva - we can always get a court date this afternoon" unrealistic.
     
  4. Peter000

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    Not that I disagree with that sentiment, but how has that been demonstrated? Up until doing the 25 tags for Peggy, Don hasn't "buckled down" and done any work whatsoever, or tried to get involved with anything. Just the opposite.
     
  5. stellie93

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    I thought that was the first time they assigned anything to him. Before he wasn't allowed to help with anything, was he?
     
  6. cmontyburns

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    I agree, but I think it's simple economy of storytelling at work. We've got that example, plus the one where Don pitched the LeaseTec guy to Bert, who told him to get lost. These, plus basically every significant character other than Roger telling him that he isn't needed or wanted, has convinced him. (On top of Cutler and Lou's secret meetings with Philip Morris, of course.)
     
  7. jkeegan

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    They implied it with him doing the 25 tags for Peggy and then staying late when Lou told him to stay late.
     
  8. Steveknj

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    I can't remember, does Megan know the whole truth about Don/Dick? I kind of got the feeling that she does, because he felt comfortable with having the pregnant girl there with her.

    Did anyone else think, as Megan and her friend kissed, that it would have been better if this show was on HBO?
     
  9. kaszeta

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    She knows a lot of it (this goes back to the Season 5 premiere, where she actually mentioned Dick Whitman)
     
  10. betts4

    betts4 I am Spartacus!

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    No! I don't get HBO so I wouldn't be able to watch it!!!
     
  11. JoeyJoJo

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    Yes, she even wears Anna's ring. Also I don't remember the exact details, but in an earlier season Betty told Sally to ask Megan if she knew Don had a wife before Betty. She asked and Megan knew all about it and she and Don sat down and told Sally.

    Betty was trying to ruin Don and Megan's relationship and it backfired on her.
     
  12. Robin

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    Definitely. But why? Does she think there's more that she doesn't know?

    LOVED "I'd let you go, Lou."

    As fun as it is to hate on Betty Henry pulled ahead for me in this episode. Culminating with "Girls!" when Betty and Sally were arguing.
     
  13. milo99

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    i don't understand what value there is in continuing to show the Betty story lines. other than the fact that January Jones is on the payroll. Speaking of whom, man, she's going to need to get some feel good roles after this so she doesn't get totally typecast the rest of her career.
     
  14. jkeegan

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    Agreed.. The following is a spoiler for season 1 (and possibly part of season 2) of 24, so I'll spoilerize it:

    Early in Season 1 of 24 we kept following not only Jack in this intense thread where he's being ordered what to do by bad guys, but we also watched his daughter and her escaping the house.. There was a sort of "oh.. this is interesting.. why are we following this story line of hers? This is interesting! It must eventually tie back in somehow, but how??" thing going on.. Later, it turned out that it ABSOLUTELY did matter that we were following her story, and that it was all planned by the bad guys and that we WERE watching relevant pieces of the story - it was a great payoff.

    In Season 2, we kept following his daughter, even though there was this "umm.. but.. she's lost in the woods.. how could this be part of someone's plan? why are we watching her?" thing.. and then she was followed by a bobcat.. Yeah. Far less good. At this point they just had to have stories of her because she was a character in the show and the actress was being paid (or at least that's what it felt like).

    I'd love to think that we're watching Don's daughter because of something more like the former, but I fear it's way more of the latter..
     
  15. lpamelaa

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    Another great style recap from Tom & Lorenzo.

    http://tomandlorenzo.com/2014/05/mad-style-the-runaways/

    One thing they didn't cover that stood out to me was the difference in fashion between the dirty hippies (Marigold and Stephanie) versus the starving artists at Megan's party. The artists were wearing the "fashion" version of hippie apparel and looked generally more clean in my opinion. I thought it made an interesting contrast.
     
  16. cmontyburns

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    I think it was just the realization for Megan that, while she is only Don's wife, he didn't even tell her he had lost his job (among who knows how many other things he may not have told her), can barely get him to go out and see her much less move there, etc. Meanwhile, this girl shows up who Don has hidden nothing from, who he drops everything to go and see immediately, etc. She's a walking embodiment of what a failure Megan's marriage to Don is, and she's standing right in Megan's kitchen. No wonder Megan immediately pulled out her checkbook and got rid of her.
     
  17. Robin

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    OK, that makes sense. Thanks!

    I got that she decided to get rid of her ASAP between the check and the line about Don not trusting her to make her own decisions, but it didn't click why.
     
  18. TiVo'Brien

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    Agreed, me too. Stephanie's importance to Don puts Megan's value to Don in rather sharp contrast.
     
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    The comments section there had a discussion about whether the females really would have been wearing skirts that short at work. I think the micro-mini fad was real, but short-lived, so I think it's plausible that's what the young secretaries would have been wearing in 1969.
     
  20. dianebrat

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    It'd also be far more common in NYC and in an ad agency than it would have been in general professional circles IMNSHO.
     

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