Advertisements Boy oh boy do you ever need a course in statistics Claiming that D*'s dvr is a total success just because D* is growing is so far off base that it's laughable. The only numbers that I've seen relating to the success of the D* dvr has been from polls comparing various dvr's. In all of those that are neutral in their wording, Tivo is always the winner - even on the fan-boy dbstalk forum. One poll I saw showed Tivo had a 3 to 1 higher acceptance level then the D* dvr, and the FIOS dvr was well below that. In fact all the numbers show is that FIOS and D* are attracting customers - probably because of the HD channels, and in spite of the dvrs. Your conclusion is like Microsoft saying that Vista is a total success because they are selling huge numbers, when in fact once again it's just the opposite. Vista has huge numbers because it is installed on new computers and the customer has no choice. In fact, their rack sales and business sales are lagging - people won't use if given the choice - the same as Tivo vs the other dvrs.