Mac Users lack Tivo togo support

Discussion in 'TiVo Home Media Features & TiVoToGo' started by tonyf3, Jan 4, 2005.

  1. errandwolfe

    errandwolfe Tivo Hates Mac Users

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    Well if the video needs to be in the same format as when you transfer from Windows to Tivo then converting it is a snap. I use VisualHub to do the conversion and it works great.
     
  2. TydalForce

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    There's a couple utilities that can transcode the video -- ffmpegx comes to mind -- and those work fine, its just a matter of knowing you have to do it, and knowing *exactly* which settings to choose so the video works when it reaches the TiVo...

    The TiVo Desktop preference pane doesn't say this. It just has an option to publish the videos, point it to the appropriate folder on the hard drive, and go. Many users would probably just dump some video files into that folder, turn it on, and wonder why the videos didn't work...

    I suspect that's why they hid it. Put it there for us geeks to play with, and expand on its functionality for a future release
     
  3. javabird

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    Thanks for posting this, but I'm having trouble getting it to work. I enabled the Video tab just fine, and my TiVoShows folder shows up on the Tivo Now pLaying list. But I put some .Tivo files in there that I had previously downloaded from Tivo to my Mac over the network, and the the files don't show up. Do the .tivo files need to be given a different file extension or converted before they will appear?


     
  4. TydalForce

    TydalForce Active Member

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    Is your TiVo seeing the computer but not finding the files? Or are the shows showing up in the TiVo but not transferring? Any error messages?

    I do seem to recall that... if you put new files in that folder, you have to go Stop and then Start the TiVo Desktop server (through the preference pane). I believe it takes an inventory of that folder on startup, and won't recognize changes on the fly.
     
  5. Dennis Wilkinson

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    It will pick up changes, but only about once every 15 minutes, looking at the logs. Starting and stopping the server when you've added something is the fastest way to get them recognized.

    While it doesn't appear to be necessary with MPEGs you transcode yourself, you may need to have the correct MAK entered in the video panel for .tivo files to work.
     
  6. Welshdog

    Welshdog Tivo this, punk!

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    I have noticed in the Tivo Shows folder that when I convert a file using ffmpegx or Tivoizer that files called "filename.properties" appear along with the converted file. I assume this helps your Tivo find non .tivo files?

    I also have had some trouble converting files (bittorented avi mostly). Tivoizer works sometimes, but lately has failed a lot. I used ffmpegx the other night and it worked perfectly. This helped me get the settings right:

    Tivo file transfer specs
     
  7. Dec 1, 2006 #1747 of 2087
    FreedMegabyte

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    I would not have purchased TiVo if they had not of had it in writing that they were committed to supporting TTG Mac OSX. I'm still waiting, but no longer patiently.
     
  8. Dec 1, 2006 #1748 of 2087
    javabird

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    Thanks! I got it working and now I'm a happy camper! It needed my MAC address before the videos would show up.
     
  9. Dec 1, 2006 #1749 of 2087
    Quevar

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    I would have still got my TiVo, but I would not have the ill will toward the company that I now have. They never made a contract, but up until the point that TTG came out, they had supported the Mac equally and made no mention of the fact that it wasn't coming out for the Mac. I got my TiVo at Christmas two years ago, just before the lack of Mac support.

    Fact is - I liked my TiVo better two years ago more than I like it now and I don't think I would buy one now. They keep adding a lot of features, but I care about very few of them. Each release slows down my TiVo to the point that it now takes several seconds to draw all menus when I interact with it. I have repeatedly told them, via their online feedback, about the features that I want and they keep coming out with other features that I do not want and slowing down my TiVo. My irritation with them continues to grow with each day of silence toward their Mac users and with each new release that slows down my system. Unless this trend reverses, I don't foresee TiVo getting any money from me (I have a lifetime and won't buy a new one unless they shape up) or my friends (cause I tell them about my irritations with TiVo). As a business that continues to lose tens of millions of dollars a quarter, they may want to start thinking about the business model and try to appease people that will soon be looking toward different options.
     
  10. Dec 1, 2006 #1750 of 2087
    macrob

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    O.K. I'm done waiting

    I'm ready to hack my tivo.
    I've been doing a lot of research the past 2 days (I'm on vacation from work) and it seems that the series 2 are now hackable. The best hack for Mac users seems to be TivoTool (Thanks Fofer), and the more I read about it, the more I want it. My prob is that I'm a newbie when it comes to linux, and I'm not sure which tools I need to use.

    Does anyone know of a step by step guide to do this?

    I've found several, but they have directions like "copy vserver to your tivo" but I don't know how to copy to tivo.

    If I can't find the answers I'll give it a go an my own, and If I hose my tivos then I guess I'll have to go by a replaytv instead.
     
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    Fofer

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    macrob

    macrob New Member

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    Thanks, but they don't offer anything for stand alone series 2 units. Their download software is what I planed to use though to hack. Thats why I need some linux giudance.
     
  13. Dec 2, 2006 #1753 of 2087
    javabird

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    I meant to say it needs the MAK.

    One problem I've noticed is that it keeps "forgetting" the video setting... I need to reset the videos option periodically as the Videos tab disappears after a time. This seems weird, since other preference settings are not forgotten.

    Anyone else had this problem or found a workaround?
     
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    davezatz

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    TydalForce

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    I tried "that application of which we're not allowed to speak" this morning real quick before leaving for work. I had no audio. I presume because I have a DRT-800, and the DVD based models use a different audio codec than the non-DVD units. Either that or I screwed up.
     
  16. Dec 4, 2006 #1756 of 2087
    Lon

    Lon :) w/o TiVo Desktop

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    WOOT! works for me! :D
     
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    Lon

    Lon :) w/o TiVo Desktop

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    some comments:

    if you have the XCode and/or Gnu compilers installed -- simply type make in the source directory.

    for converted files:

    VLC (I am currently using 0.8.6-test2a) works great

    mplayer works fine

    Quicktime Player doesn't work for me (even though I have Apple's MPEG2 codec installed) video stalls, but audio is fine

    Quality is what you would expect from an analog-to-digital original file.
     
  18. Dec 4, 2006 #1758 of 2087
    davezatz

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    There are various flavors of MPEG-2 and Apple doesn't support them all...

    I'll have to muck around when I get home tonight.
     
  19. Dec 4, 2006 #1759 of 2087
    unixb0y

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    How long does it take to "convert" a show?
     
  20. Dec 4, 2006 #1760 of 2087
    TydalForce

    TydalForce Active Member

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    Define "convert"

    If you mean to shove it through this new utility, its really fast -- I did a 500meg (15minute) program in like 2 minutes.

    If you mean "run through some application to make it another video format",... longer. lol
     

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