Love the new little features on the 9.4 update

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by IsItLive, Jul 30, 2008.

  1. Leo_N

    Leo_N Lucky 200 member

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    Loving these two, the 24 Hour skip was a nice little surprise. The guide access during playback is heaven, have wanted that forever!!
     
  2. Sparty99

    Sparty99 Well-Known Member

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    I must be the only one who hates the guide access during playback. When I'm playing something back and wanted to switch to Live TV, I used the Guide button on my Harmony 880 to access Live TV. I had to update my remote and now I'm going to have to get used to using a different button.
     
  3. jrm01

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    You're probably not the only one disappointed. There are probably four others.:)
     
  4. ciucca

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    I wish Tivo would cease with the new features. I can't see how you tube has any usefulness, but thats just me.

    Fix the glaring problems! Like the FIOS pixelation, and others people have been complaining about on this board for a long time.
     
  5. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    Considering how popular YouTube is, it must be very useful for a number of people. I personally can take it or leave it. But I admit I have watched a few YouTube videos only because it was available through the TiVo.
     
  6. TerpBE

    TerpBE Go Terps!

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    Now if only they added a visual indicator in the guide to indicate which shows are scheduled to be recorded, like this:

    [​IMG]
     
  7. wmcbrine

    wmcbrine Well-Known Mumbler

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    You're making two big assumptions, both of which may be (probably are) incorrect:

    1. Development time spent on YouTube takes away from development time spent on fixing Fios pixelation.

    2. Fios pixelation is fixable in software.
     
  8. MichaelK

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    youtube is no biggie to me-

    But the scuttlebutt is the guts to make youtube work required mpeg4 to get enabled on the boxes- and that can yield some big things like HD downloads.
     
  9. tluxon

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    Yes. Just like that! :up:
     
  10. TiVoPony

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    That was considered, but set aside. It interrupted the flow of the content (the point of the feature was to play show after show after show smoothly). It was a real issue for music videos, very annoying. It also turned out to be an issue for some parents. Apparently some people tested this feature by forcing their kids to watch a large number of Thomas the Tank Engine episodes. Telling Mom that 'the TiVo is asking something' every half hour seemed to reduce the usefulness of the feature (for some people). :)

    Pony
     
  11. TiVoPony

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    Yes, we did enable support for H.264 downloads. Pretty cool, eh? :)

    Pony
     
  12. kas25

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    Does this mean all my home movies in mpeg4 format will now download to my tivo? I have a bunch of stuff in mpeg4 which works great on my Apple TV but I would love to ditch the ATV in favor of Tivo for home movies.
     
  13. jayfest

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    I remember that when I had small kids, I would put on some videocassette that had several programs recorded on it and my kids would watch the whole thing. And then a month later, they'd watch the same group of programs over again. I could certainly see parents just playing an entire folder more than once for their little kids, so it's probably best to separate the deleting from the playing.
     
  14. MichaelK

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    VERY cool!

    now wheres unbox in hd?

    (what have you done for us lately- lol)
     
  15. ciucca

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    If the FIOS pixelation is not fixable in software (and I agree with your opinion) what pisses me off is Tivo will NOT admit it. Their solution is to keep replacing the box for $50 a pop. No thank you. They should fix the hardware problem, and offer customers a fixed box for the $50. This I would accept.
     
  16. MichaelK

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    The problem with fios is it might be fios that has the problem.
    Tivo builds their stuff to cablelabs standards. Fios is in theory buying cable labs compliant equipment for their head end from motorola. But since verizon isn’t allowed to be a member of cablelabs it’s not unthinkable that they are doing something that doesn’t quite comply with the standards and since they aren’t allowed into cablelabs to test like everyone else.
     
  17. ciucca

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    From what I know ;) Verizon FIOS meets all standards for RF signaling into the receiver. Perhaps the MOCA frequency on the coax is interfering with the TIVO causing pixelation (one theroy I've heard). For the sake of my discussion lets assume this is the issue. Why is this then Verizon's fault? Tivo is a third party vendor. It's there obligation to make their equipment compliant.

    The only way Verizon could be at fault is if they withheld information. I'm sure this is not the case. I think it is more likely that Tivo has identified the problem as theirs and made a business decision to deny it, figuring their technical savoy customer will figure a way around it (attenuators). One other possibility is that Tivo's engineering department is incapable of figuring out what is wrong, they decided to deny the issue is theirs. This possibility is probably the case having worked in the software industry for 20+ I've seen this many times. Either way they made the decision to save present dollars at the expense of customer satisfaction.
     
  18. vazquezj324

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    ‘Macroblocking’ refers to areas of your television screen that do not display the correct image, but instead contain blocks of a single color. Most cable customers notice occasional instances of transient macroblocking.

    If you are using Verizon FIOS service with a TiVo HD DVR or TiVo Series 3 HD DVR, however, you may see frequent macroblocking and widely fluctuating signal levels. This issue can be resolved easily by installing a low-pass filter or diplexer in the cable line.

    Verizon technical support is aware of this issue and the necessary steps to resolve it. Please contact them at http://www22.verizon.com/Residential/Support/ContactUs to request the installation of a low-pass filter or diplexer.

    link: http://www.tivo.com/setupandsupport..._macroblocking_with_Verizon_FiOS_service.html
     
  19. GA_HiDef

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    Oh yes, yes, yes... Visual indication of scheduled to record programs in the guide. Please... soon. please.

    Thanks for listening.
     
  20. MichaelK

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    I believe TiVo built a cablelabs compatible receiver and they support it for all cablelabs certified/approved/verified/(whatever the word is) situations.

    Not sure they officially support FIOS- at least in the beginning they did not and it was specifically because verizon was a different animal. .

    Tivo is not obligated to make their box work with fios even if fios was very public about what they are doing. Just like tivo isn’t required to make a box that works with uverse or anyone else if those people made their specs public.

    In a perfect workd tivo should be able to create a single box that works for everyone without them having to tweak their hardware for every provider that exists.

    Tivo built their box, tested it to the only standard that really exists in the wild (the one from cablelabs) – it passed and they moved on. It IS COMPLIANT with the standard that exists. At least accordign to the people that test to that standard.

    If tivo is aware of something that would make it not work then they should certainly share that information so you can make informed decisions, but if verizon is doing something off spec then I don’t see how it’s tivo’s obligation to fizx it.

    And just for the record- I believe it’s not verizon’s fault either. It’s the NCTA’s and the FCC who made cablelabs the official body to create the standards. Cablelabs specifically doesn’t permit non cable entities to join. So how is such an entity going to work with all the various players to create a single open standard that everyone can follow? Verizon has no say, and for all we know isn’t even allowed to test their equipment with cablelabs tools to ensure interoperability. So maybe verizon even thinks everything is fine because they have no way to test it on the official cable testbeds? Verizon created a superset of the cable standards for their system and there’s no place to get that agreed to as a standard to follow. There were plenty that complained to the FCC at the time the decision was made- but they put their head in the sand and basically said they trusted cable to do the right thing by the other players- and we all see now how that worked out for verizon.
     

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