Lost - "The End" 5/23 series finale (spoilers)

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  1. astrohip

    astrohip Well-Known Raconteur TCF Club

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    I mean influence in the sense of changing the way we "talk/discuss/watch" TV. West Wing was an incredible show, but I'm not sure how it changed TV. Lost (IMHO) actually changed the playing field. Shows started being dissected, the Internet played a huge role, screen caps became a thing, yada yada.

    Lost created a new norm.
     
  2. gweempose

    gweempose Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    Yep. The Sopranos is the only other modern show I can think of that had such a significant impact on the television landscape.
     
  3. Mikeguy

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    And "The Mary Tyler Moore Show" established a "new way" that single women were looked at, what they could do, and a new level for a half-hour comedy show. And what a woman could do in television as an actress and producer.

    As I said, with "The West Wing," it can be harder to dissect its importance, because it simply was so excellent. Perhaps that's part of its influence, the establishment of such a high level of competence in so many ways, including the writing and import of the story--setting a bar of excellence for a show like "Lost" to reach. Within the industry, "The West Wing" also cemented the idea of and technology for the walk-and-talk sequence, which has become a standard and forms a basis in docudramas and realistic filmography today.
     
  4. RGM1138

    RGM1138 I wanna Rock

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    It’s interesting that the show is still being discussed, lo these many years later. I tried to keep into it but couldn’t.

    I guess it was my first attempt at long form, nonlinear storytelling. But, for some reason, it never grabbed me by the hand and demanded that I become invested like I have with Westworld.
     
  5. Mikeguy

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    That raises another influence of "Lost": nonlinear storytelling. I can't recall but, has any other show done that, with so much time-jumping and jumping between different storylines?

    On the influence track, here are other shows that have done it: as much as I don't enjoy it, "Survivor"--established/cemented the modern television reality show; "The Tonight Show" (and I mean going back to the original, with Jack Parr)--established the late night talk show, and disrupted/established late night viewer habits (including the placement of a television in the bedroom, affecting evening bedroom custom).
     
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  6. Steveknj

    Steveknj Lost in New Joisey TCF Club

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    I will agree with you to this extent. For me at least, it was the first show that I ever spent hours online and elsewhere talking about each episode (especially here at TCF), pouring through ever detail, trying to figure out what everything meant. The cottage industry of wiki's and Lost dedicated websites that came from Lost were unprecedented. I think THAT'S how ti changed the way we watched TV. There have been plenty of watercolor shows before. Seinfeld, Twin Peaks, The West Wing, The X-FIle, The Sopranos (which was the show that made me resubscribe to HBO after hearing coworkers talking about it). But none to the extent of Lost. And I think shows like Breaking Bad, Mad Men, Game of Thrones and others that had this type of cult like following, with threads 100 or more messages long per episode. That's what Lost did that was groundbreaking.
     
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  7. Steveknj

    Steveknj Lost in New Joisey TCF Club

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    I'm the opposite. While I like Westworld, I LOVED Lost. I looked forward to spending time in the Lost threads. I read a page of the Westworld thread and I'm bored. Despite it's sometimes convoluted story line, I felt Lost was actually pretty easy to follow. Westworld is impossible to follow unless you pay strict attention to it. The writers try to outsmart the viewers.
     
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  8. RGM1138

    RGM1138 I wanna Rock

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    Yes, I guess it seems like that. I tried to stay with Lost, but Smoke Monsters, polar bears and some of the characters just made me lose interest. As best I can remember.
     
  9. gweempose

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    Lost definitely created a new kind of template with the way it used flashbacks to give insight into the characters. This technique has become so commonplace that we don't even think about it anymore, but it's undeniable that popular shows like This is Us, Scandal, Handmaid's Tale, and even Orange is the New Black have a lot of Lost in their DNA.
     
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  10. hefe

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    I actually thought of Lost when watching the couple episodes of Lost in Space that I've seen, with the flashbacks they used.
     
  11. jlb

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    Before you had sold either the BDs or DVDs? Did you find the "hidden" disc with the "epilogue footage" (so to speak)?
     
  12. sushikitten

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    Yep.
     
  13. RGM1138

    RGM1138 I wanna Rock

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    They had to have an epilogue?
     
  14. Peter000

    Peter000 Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    The didn't HAVE to. But they had one anyway.
     
  15. stellie93

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    Glad to hear you say that. I got the DVD of the first season of Westworld fully expecting to love it, and I just couldn't get into it at all. I think part of the trouble was that I didn't try to hunt up the threads here, and part that,as usual, I wasn't paying enough attention. Is it really good? Worth trying again to struggle through?
     
  16. Peter000

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    I'll probably get flamed for saying this, but "meh." IMO it tries too hard to be deep, opaque and mysterious, and perhaps succeeds too well. I quit after the first season.
     
  17. RGM1138

    RGM1138 I wanna Rock

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    Yeah, but you got to want it.

    :D

    Westworld may be too clever for its own good, I dunno. Most of the posters in those threads understand it much better than I do. And I don’t have any idea what they’ll do with a third season.

    But, it has intrigued me much more that Lost ever did. So, I come here to pick the massive TCF Hive Mind to try and keep up.

    :)
     
  18. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

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    Season 1 got a lot of criticism because it seemed the writers were too focused on making the show a puzzle with a big shocking reveal in the season finale. But when most of the online fandom figured out the "big twist" pretty early on in S1, it kind of highlighted the way the show lacked some storytelling in favor of mystery. But I think S2 has been really good so far. I think the producers realized that with the way the internet dissects things, they can't really expect to have a mystery that remains unsolved for an entire season, so they're unraveling things in a more straightforward fashion.
     
  19. Steveknj

    Steveknj Lost in New Joisey TCF Club

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    Exactly what I think. As mentioned, unless I pay full attention, I get lost. I don't like how they do flashbacks. Because the "hosts" don't age, it's very difficult to tell the difference between times unless there's a human in the scene and it's established that the human is an already existing character, which often isn't clear. They just get too cute with the writing.
     
  20. Steveknj

    Steveknj Lost in New Joisey TCF Club

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    I will agree with this. Once they stopped jumping around from timeline to timeline so much it's been a bit easier to follow. Still don't like it as much as some here, but I'm still watching.
     

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