LOST - The Candidate 5/4

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by Paperboy2003, May 4, 2010.

  1. May 5, 2010 #121 of 303

    danterner Not it!

    Mar 4, 2005
    Greenacres, FL


    So say we all!
  2. May 5, 2010 #122 of 303

    Shaunnick Active Member

    Jul 1, 2005
    Knoxville, TN
  3. May 5, 2010 #123 of 303

    lexsar Member

    Dec 15, 2003
    Awesome George Thorogood reference. Props to Mmilton80!!! :up:
  4. May 5, 2010 #124 of 303

    ThePennyDropped Now I get it. TCF Club

    Jul 5, 2006
    Northeast US
    A few of you have asked where Ben is. My question is: where is Vincent (the dog)? :)

    Have I just forgotten how they wrote him off the show?
  5. May 5, 2010 #125 of 303

    Alpinemaps New Member

    Jul 25, 2004
    San Diego, CA


    Umm...I got nothin'. :p

    That was from when Locke was playing backgammon with Walt. If it wasn't in the first episode, it was the first couple of episodes.

    Gotta do it. :up:
  6. May 5, 2010 #126 of 303

    SugarBowl Member

    Jan 4, 2007
    north carolina
    I suppose jack is trekking to the well now to find desmond. How many episodes will it take him to get there?
  7. May 5, 2010 #127 of 303

    DancnDude Thrice as nice TCF Club

    Feb 7, 2001
    Madison, WI
    I thought he was living with Rose and Bernard.
  8. May 5, 2010 #128 of 303

    markz Well-Known Member

    Oct 22, 2002
    After the sub blew up, and we were back in the flash-sideways where Jack was saying goodbye to Locke in the wheelchair, didn't Jack pause a second as Jin walked by in the hallway and went into a room? It was as if Jack thought "Wait, I know that guy from somewhere"

    If that's the case, Jin is alive in the flash-sideways and will probably be with his child.

    Please tell me someone else saw that.
  9. May 5, 2010 #129 of 303

    aindik Well-Known Member

    Jan 23, 2002
    Jin was definitely there. Not sure if Jack saw him or not.
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    uncdrew Annie 2.0

    Aug 6, 2002
    Down South
    Or buy your parents an early anniversary present: HD TV.
  11. May 5, 2010 #131 of 303

    betts4 I am Spartacus!

    Dec 26, 2005
    A Galaxy...
    Since the beginning this has driven me nuts. Why don't they sit down and compare notes??? Not just the Losties and the Others, but just the Losties themselves?

    I knew this-

    Also I thought the watch would stop at 1:08.
  12. May 5, 2010 #132 of 303

    betts4 I am Spartacus!

    Dec 26, 2005
    A Galaxy...
    Since the island seems to be getting smaller and they can trek across it in just a few hours, I would think not long at all now. :D

    And for the record - no way is anyone else going to be in the room with me when I watch this. I have learned my lesson in the past. I would love to go to or have a party afterwards, but I want it quiet dark and some tissues around.
  13. May 5, 2010 #133 of 303

    NYHeel Well-Known Member

    Oct 7, 2003
    Why does everyone assume that a candidate can't kill himself? Richard's demonstration was just that he, Richard, can't die. Not that other people can't die or kill themselves. Wasn't that FLocke's whole point. He can't kill the candidates so he tricks them into killing themselves. Sayid was a candidate and he killed himself.

    One other thing that's bugging me. Why did FLocke bother to save Jack from Whidmore's attack in the end of the last episode? He already knew that Jack didn't want to leave so this was a simple way to get Jack to die (without killing Jack himself). Maybe FLocke needed Jack to help round up the group from Whidmore, but that seems kind of weak.
  14. May 5, 2010 #134 of 303

    MickeS Well-Known Member

    Dec 26, 2002
    I get the feeling the answers to questions like these are like the answer to the question "Why can't the rook move diagonally?" Because it's against the rules.

    We'll see.
  15. May 5, 2010 #135 of 303

    NYHeel Well-Known Member

    Oct 7, 2003
    But in this case it wouldn't be against the rules since FLocke wasn't the one doing the killing, it was the Whidmore group.
  16. May 5, 2010 #136 of 303

    MickeS Well-Known Member

    Dec 26, 2002
    I think he needed Jack though, for the reason you said. And who knows what else.
  17. May 5, 2010 #137 of 303

    unixadm Super Moderator Staff Member

    Jan 1, 2001
    Wichita, KS
    I think I see where all of this is going...I think Smokey is being jailed on the island (think of Superman 2 with the people being jailed in the mirror in space). Jacob is his jailer. The loophole is that MiB can escape the island if and only if Jacob is dead AND all candidates have killed each other. He found the loophole to kill Jacob, but if there are survivors among the candidates, then MiB can't leave.

    If Smokey's plan of the candidates killing each other would have happened, he could escape from his "prison", would leave the island and cause death in destruction across the world. But that didn't happen.....

    We know that Jacob was looking for candidates.....he knew that MiB would find a loophole to try to escape. I am thinking that in the end there will only one candidate that ends up replacing Jacob and MiB remains himself. Jacob was his "jailer" that kept MiB there....and as long as there is a jailer or a candidate for replacement, MiB can't leave.

    The last person that is left on the island (Jack or Sawyer?) will end up being the Jacob replacement and their sideways duplicate will end up dying so the final reality for that one person will be sitting on the island for hundreds or thousands of years keeping MiB from leaving until one of them can figure out how to take advantage of another loophole.

    In the end, for the rest of the people who have all died on the island, there will only be the sideways reality....they will continue their lives in the reality they should have had if Jacob hadn't visited them when they were younger and veered their lives into a different direction. The island reality never existed for them (although they may have vague memories of weird dreams they have had about the island and each other...maybe a deja vu feeling once in a while).

    My guess is that the point of the whole story from start to finish was for Jacob to get a replacement to keep MiB on the island (while MiB tried to find a way off the island)....but the process of doing this would change lots of lives.......second part of the plan for Jacob was to then make sure the rest of the candidates that didn't qualify went back to their lives the way they were before Jacob interfered them. Pick that single winner with no one else knowing or remembering what happened in the end.
  18. May 5, 2010 #138 of 303

    Sacrilegium that weird guy

    Dec 14, 2006
    So how does this tie in with Michael not being able to kill himself off-island?
  19. May 5, 2010 #139 of 303

    NatasNJ Bone marrow lover!

    Jan 7, 2002

    Sounds like the ending will leave us still with many unanswered questions where your scenario wraps it up nicely.
  20. May 5, 2010 #140 of 303

    Steveknj Lost in New Joisey TCF Club

    Mar 10, 2003
    New Jersey
    The problem I have with that whole scenario, is, what was the previous 5 years all about? Why did we even need to sit through 5 years of Others, and Ben being the baddie, and Dharma (where does Widmore and Dharma fit into this scenario?) and whatever else. Right now, that's the problem I have with this whole MIB vs. Jacob scenario. I've said it in other threads that I'm feeling that, while I spent 5 years enjoying the show, most of it was really pretty meaningless in the scheme of the whole thing. It's like a big Sawyer con on everyone who stuck with the show all this time.

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