Lost: Season Finale, May 13 1977

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  1. May 14, 2009 #81 of 457
    Turtleboy

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    Why was Ilana in a hospital ward with disfiguring injuries?

    How did she recognize Jacob right away, know who he was, and agree to do what he asked?
     
  2. May 14, 2009 #82 of 457
    Rob Helmerichs

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    Of course, the much bigger question is who are these new people? Well, obviously, not new people at all! So, who are these old people we've never met before?
     
  3. May 14, 2009 #83 of 457
    jlb

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    I vote for crew of the Black Rock.
     
  4. May 14, 2009 #84 of 457
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    I had that thought last night after I went to bed.

    What if the light at the end, wasn't time setting itself correctly, but another time jump for the people displaced. But only for those in the immediate vicinity. That way everyone but Rose and Bernard are back in the present, and they go to the cave and use it as a tomb.
     
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    They seem to be followers of Jacob that just don't live on the island. Maybe?

    Also, maybe the shack, isn't the home of Jacob. That's the home of the black shirt guy. And the ash was a way to keep him confined so he couldn't cause trouble. Wasn't there a scene where someone messed up the ash? Maybe that's what let black shirt guy out

    He could be the one that told Locke "help me". And Locke has inadvertently been helping him since.
     
  6. May 14, 2009 #86 of 457
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    My local ABC station decided that tornadoes were more important than LOST. Rather than watch it with weather bugs, scrolls, and interruptions, I decided to wait until this morning and watch it online. So, I got up early...

    I've just now finished. Good God, that was fantastic!

    Now, I'll go back and read all the posts before me. I just had to get some sort of exclamation out first. I'm trembling here (in a very masculine sort of way).

    (LOST makes me happy :) .)
     
  7. May 14, 2009 #87 of 457
    Rob Helmerichs

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    Yeah, it seemed clear to me (and my twisted mind) last night that Jacob used to live in the cabin, but hasn't in a long time. And that the person who has been giving people guidance from the cabin (posing as Jacob) is Jacob's old buddy.

    And it would seem that Jacob's buddy is the one who keeps appearing as dead people, unless that's a trick they share. But we know Buddy does (since he's been posing as Locke). When I rewatch the series this summer, it will be interesting to keep an eye on what exactly the dead people get people to do, in light of what we know now. Good, or evil?
     
  8. May 14, 2009 #88 of 457
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    I assume now that the man in black/fake Locke is the smoke monster? This makes sense to me seeing that smokie as Bens daughter tells Ben to follow Locke who is in-fact fake Locke.
     
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    jlb

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    Look at this pic again......Take away the long hair, and it looks just like Jacob's buddy.
     
  10. May 14, 2009 #90 of 457
    cheesesteak

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    I enjoyed that. I'm confused as hell but I enjoyed it.

    Talk about a woman's perogative. Juliette sure changed her mind a lot.

    I'm a little tired of the Kate, Jack, Sawyer and Juliette love quadrilateral.
     
  11. May 14, 2009 #91 of 457
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    I think faux Locke is not permitted to enter Jacob's home, or maybe even without Richard's permission. This whole plan put events in motion that led to Jacob's representative guiding faux Locke into the foot.
     
  12. May 14, 2009 #92 of 457
    flyers088

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    Guess it as the scene was going on! Had to stop and explain the Adam/Eve reference to the wife.

    What is the symbolism of the white background with the black Lost logo rather than the black background with the white Lost logo?
     
  13. May 14, 2009 #93 of 457
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    Maybe he didn't. He said "Are we going to talk about the elephant in the room?" and Ben replied, "You mean the fact that I killed you?" So basically Ben told him everything he needed to know.
     
  14. May 14, 2009 #94 of 457
    flyers088

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    I was confused by the break in the ring around Jacob's cabin and why the 'good guys' were freaked out by it?
     
  15. May 14, 2009 #95 of 457
    davezatz

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    I've been thinking Atlantis on and off this season, given the ancient lore, island settings, and ability to relocate physically.

    I don't know... seems kinda traditional to force it into the tradition good guy/bad guy (white shirt, black shirt) roles. At least the mystery keeps the roles ambiguous for now. Not sure where they're going with it next season. Either way it's gotten a bit too supernatural/metaphysical for my tastes.
     
  16. May 14, 2009 #96 of 457
    Alfer

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    You must live around us....our storms blew in EXACTLY when LOST was to air and they were good about doing their NUMEROUS weather updates, but right at the 45 minutes part of the show the dipshi*ts decided to spend almost 30 minutes showing weather radars of rain...ugh....so we missed that whole middle section.

    I'll go online tonight to watch that part.


    Overall it was a pretty cool episode...still scratching my head about some things, but still pretty good ending overall.

    Agreed though...2010 is a LONG way away!
     
  17. May 14, 2009 #97 of 457
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    I cracked up at what I viewed as winks to the audience.

    - Sayid telling Jack they have 2 hours to complete their mission with the bomb. Well, of course, the season finale is 2 hours! Its "24" with different Jack!

    - At Sun's wedding, "I don't know, but his Korean is excellent", when they keep bashing the actor on his korean in the press.

    -- or maybe I'm starting to insert my own jokes. :)


    Tom
     
  18. May 14, 2009 #98 of 457
    danterner

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    Also Sun and Jin.

    I imagine it will be huge. The statue appeared to be hippo- or crocodile-faced. That, plus the ankh, make me think it is probably Taweret, Egyptian goddess of birth and of rebirth into the afterlife. Afterlife/purgatory theories have been vehemently dismissed by DL&CC, but I expect to see them making a resurgence now that Tawaret is in the picture. Tawaret judges souls and guides them into the afterlife, and is also a guard of the entrance to the land of the dead. I found the last paragraph of the page to which I linked particularly interesting, as it talks about Tawaret's relation to Horus (the Horus/Horace homonym has been observed in prior threads), and it also talks about "keeping Set's powers of evil fettered by a chain" - this makes me think of the ash ring around the cabin, but also the electro-magnetized chain that dragged Juliette into the drilled pit, as well as the fact that in prior seasons when the smoke monster was dragging Locke toward its hole the sound it make kept being described by people as "like a chain".

    I liked the line (paraphrasing) "In my experience, it's normally the bad guys that go out of their way to tell you they're good." In my own experience, good guys generally don't say things like "Do you know how much I want to kill you?" and then put complicated wheels into motion to make it happen, so I'm going to assume that Dark-Haired-Guy probably is not Good. Since it seems the he and Jacob are in a pitched battle, I'm going to assume that Jacob is Good. I think that Dark-Haired-Guy's dark hair and dark shirt, versus Jacob's light hair and light shirt, are clues to this. It seems we are being shown that resurrected Locke is actually Dark-Haired-Guy. If he was able to take the form of Locke, then I'm going to assume that he's also responsible for the other apparitions we've seen on the island (Christian, Ben's daughter, etc), previously attributed to the smoke monster. So are Dark-Haired-Guy and the smoke monster one and the same? The smoke monster has been described as the island's "security system" Why is the island trying to get rid of Jacob? Who is Jacob, and why is he on the island?

    I'm going to guess that Jacob (who lives in base of the statue, apparently) is Taweret (or a priest of Taweret), and Dark-Haired-Guy is Set (or a priest of Set). If not literally, then at least metaphorically.

    Or, maybe, the battle between Jacob and Dark-Haired-Guy is a personification of a battle between theologies/Gods. Not God vs. The Devil, because that's a battle that takes place within a single religion, but rather a battle pitching egyptian religion against judeo-christian religion. The first season was very heavily laden with judeo-christian references, but recently we've been seeing another pantheon. Maybe LOST is the story of them duking it out. The losties are just pawns in the larger battle, and the Gods, since they're Gods, can't kill each other. Makes me think of Neil Gaiman's "American Gods"

    Unrelated: How did the Black Rock wind up inland? I had assumed the island at one point moved to a place in the ocean where the Black Rock already was, effectively grounding it by materializing around it. But now it looks more like it is just sailing in. I guess that remains to be seen.
     
  19. May 14, 2009 #99 of 457
    cheesesteak

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    Did Sayid take a Hydrogen Bomb Technician correspondence course?
     
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    I KNOW I'm in the minority here, but this is probably the first time since watching Lost that I can understand why people get turned off by all of this confusion and the story turning on a dime to something completely off the wall. If THIS whole thing...after investing 5+ years in these chararcters...is a game between Jacob and his nemesis and the Losties, the Others, and the Dharma folks are just pawns in this game, then to me, this is turning into a St. Elsewhere ending. I don't like this whole Jacob vs. Faux Locke or whatever we are calling him. This is WAY too out there, even for Lost. I am really totally confused about everything now. Why didn't the bomb go off when it was first dropped? How did Juliette survive? Is Whidmore Jacob's nemesis? How the heck will an H-bomb not destroy the whole island? My head hurts thinking about this. Maybe another rewatch will make me less confused. Too much to take in really.
     

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