Lost: Season Finale, May 13 1977

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  1. May 13, 2009 #41 of 457

    Queue UnbowdUnbentUnbrokn

    Apr 6, 2009


    Interesting that faux Locke created the loophole by having Richard tell alive-jumping-in-time-Locke that he had to bring everyone back to the island. So it wasn't Locke creating this destiny thing for himself, it was black shirt faux Locke creating a loophole.
  2. May 13, 2009 #42 of 457

    Turtleboy Well-Known Member TCF Club

    Mar 24, 2001
    Ft. Lauderdale
    And what, if any, is Widmore's role in all of this?
  3. May 13, 2009 #43 of 457

    Queue UnbowdUnbentUnbrokn

    Apr 6, 2009
    Yeah, kinda goes back to the first season with the backgammon pieces.

    I wonder how Jacob got off the island. He seems to be, or was at one time, mostly human. (He had to eat.)
  4. May 13, 2009 #44 of 457

    Queue UnbowdUnbentUnbrokn

    Apr 6, 2009
    So far who all have we seen Jacob meet? Just the main characters?


    We got a flashback on Juliette, but no followup or appearance by Jacob.
  5. May 13, 2009 #45 of 457

    Turtleboy Well-Known Member TCF Club

    Mar 24, 2001
    Ft. Lauderdale


    You mean he could eat. That doesn't mean he has to eat.
  6. May 13, 2009 #46 of 457

    Queue UnbowdUnbentUnbrokn

    Apr 6, 2009
    I wonder if the plot line of women unable to bear children on the island will be revisited in the last season.
  7. May 13, 2009 #47 of 457

    crazywater USS TiVo NCC-1780

    Mar 7, 2001
    Maybe Juliet is the cause of women unable to bear children due to the bomb she detonated. And then 24 years later she is brought to the island to solve the mystery that she caused...
  8. May 13, 2009 #48 of 457

    SocratesJohnson New Member

    Sep 14, 2005
    Bedford, TX
    "What about you?"
    My favorite line of the night. :up:
    Anyway, what I took away from all of this is that the black shirt guy has been pulling the strings all along (dating back to the Black Rock evidently) to "persuade" someone to kill Jacob since he can't for whatever reason.
  9. May 13, 2009 #49 of 457

    scandia101 Just the facts ma'am

    Oct 20, 2007
    MN, greater...
    WTF? That's not the title of the episode, the air date, or the day it takes place.
  10. May 13, 2009 #50 of 457

    jkeegan Active Member

    Oct 16, 2000
    Amazing two hours of television.

    Jacob didn't seem scared.. he told Ben he had a choice (almost like Ben's very last chance).

    Fake Locke was also Fake Ben's Daughter Alex (as was said last thread I think - that's why they weren't next to each other).

    Two sides.. one light, one dark. Played beautifully with the opening scene.

    2010 seems so damned far away. :(

    Part of me expects to see some pre-2007 scene with Jacob and anti-Jacob (dark-shirt guy) where dark-shirt turns into the smoke monster and Jacob turns into a previously-unseen-except-by-Locke white smoke (or something very beautiful)..

    ..but, they showed us a scene where Jacob was actually catching/killing/eating a fish, which kind of implies he's a living person that can digest food etc.

    Did Jacob want to kill Nadia, or did he want to save Sayid? Why not save both?

    Is Jacob really dead?

    Was Jacob already aware of darkshirt/fakeLocke's plan? He was off-island, far away from Ben's knife, when he told Ilana to go to the island..

    Did Ilana's group take Locke's body from the coffin and put it in an empty crate they brought with them (or found on the plane)? Did they know there'd be an imposter? Why tell Caesar about Locke being found in the water?

    In The Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham, when we first see fake John, he's wearing a black cloak.

    I wonder if Ilana was originally supposed to be Anna Lucia, before Anna's actress left the show?

    It feels like there's an interesting parallel between Ben and Widmore both acknowledging that they can't kill each other (when they were in Widmore's place in London), and blackshirt and Jacob's discussion about wanting to kill him and him saying that someday he'd find a loophole.
  11. May 14, 2009 #51 of 457

    hefe Rebus Philbin

    Dec 5, 2000
    CO via Chi-town
    I vote not clever.
  12. May 14, 2009 #52 of 457

    Tsiehta Active Member

    Jul 22, 2002
    duplicate post
  13. May 14, 2009 #53 of 457

    Tsiehta Active Member

    Jul 22, 2002
    I think there is a wager of some type between Jacob and faux Locke. Kind of like they are immortals. Faux Locke said in effect "It's always the same. They come, they conquer, they fight, they destroy." A statement about the fate of man. Jacob represents the "good" in man, constantly bringing people to the island to prove faux Locke wrong.

    Jacob and faux Locke are incapable of killing each other directly, they are playing a game with each other.
  14. May 14, 2009 #54 of 457

    uncdrew Annie 2.0

    Aug 6, 2002
    Down South
    That was a fun time. I was actually happy to see the bomb go off. Guess if they had a "which Lostie are you?" game I'd be Jack.

    Yeah, I didn't really like their appearance, and personally didn't need it. I know lots of people wanted an answer about them, so that's cool they got their answer. But it didn't add anything to the episode for me. And there were some holes there.

    If the loophole is as simple as "have someone else kill him" I'm a little puzzled why it took decades/centuries to finally pull it off. I expect a little more to the loophole.
  15. May 14, 2009 #55 of 457

    jlb Go Pats!

    Dec 13, 2001
    Burlington, VT

    You know, every time the flashes occur, or the failsafe is turned, we see what we have called white flashes. Perhaps it is white smoke protecting the people from the effects.....who knows.....

    I liked how when our Jack decided to fight, he went Jack (Bauer).....

    I looooooved this. Very touching at the end. We'll see what happens in a few wee.....months........er......man 2010.....so far away
  16. May 14, 2009 #56 of 457

    vikingguy New Member

    Aug 11, 2005
    All I can say is wow it is going to be a long wait till Jan 2010. Season finale week has been kick ass this year so far with Fringe and Lost. Tomorrow I am sure supernatural will also be off the charts awesome.
  17. May 14, 2009 #57 of 457

    Dad New Member

    Oct 27, 2001
    Near Boston, MA
    I don't think that was Jacob, it was the other guy putting everything in play by visiting everyone he needed to come back to the island to complete his evil plan. If so, he played Ben perfectly and may even have talked Ben into wiping out Dharma so all this would come to be. Jacob's dying words were: "they're coming", which is exactly what the evil (or so it seems) guy was so pissed at Jacob about in the opening of the show. If the bomb going off was the "incident" does that mean that it goes back to the begining and flight 815 still crashes and 'round and ' round we go?

    The mind reels...
  18. May 14, 2009 #58 of 457

    Test Well-Known Member

    Dec 8, 2004
    I can't believe I didn't see the Locke in a box coming, when the body rolled out and they still weren't showing who it was I didn't put 2 n 2 together...all these thoughts on who it was going to be were racing through my head, thought for sure it was Jacob. Very cool.

    Anyone guess that Bernard and rose are Adam and eve?
  19. May 14, 2009 #59 of 457

    unixadm Super Moderator Staff Member

    Jan 1, 2001
    Wichita, KS
    Definitely a GREAT season finale....and in typical LOST fashion, answered a few questions, but opened up a whole new can of questions.

    I can't figured out why Jacob was visiting each of the people from flight 815 when they were younger. This shows me that they were predetermined WAY in advance that they were going to go to the island....unless Jacob can time travel as well....but why would he visit them anyway even if he knew they were coming to the island in the future?

    16 Episodes left? It's gonna be tough to wrap all of it up in that time.

    Only 8 months until it starts up again! (ugghh...8 months is too long!)
  20. May 14, 2009 #60 of 457

    toddvj New Member

    Apr 22, 2004
    St. Paul, MN
    In 1977? I didn't think thongs were that common back then?

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