Lost: Season Finale, May 13 1977

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  1. May 13, 2009 #21 of 457
    Turtleboy

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    So is Dead Locke the Smoke Monster? Possibly.

    Seems to me that it was someone or something banished from the island under the rules of "the game" and found a "loophole" in the rules to get back as dead Locke.
     
  2. May 13, 2009 #22 of 457
    vertigo235

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    What happened, happened. All Jack did was show Radzinsky how to create the failsafe for the swan.
     
  3. May 13, 2009 #23 of 457
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    I think the loop hole was the ability to kill Jacob.
     
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    Yeah I know I just thought it was a great line for Miles.
     
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    Rob Helmerichs

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    Dead Locke must be the guy who was with Jacob when the Black Rock arrived.

    I smell some very old flashbacks coming on!

    Maybe some VERY old flashbacks...
    It's certainly what I had been thinking ever since Farraday came up with the plan.

    Dead is dead. What happened, happened.
     
  6. May 13, 2009 #26 of 457
    stitch626

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    I think he said "ille qui nos omnes servabit" and while my latin is rusty from high school basically he said "he who will save us all"
     
  7. May 13, 2009 #27 of 457
    Cindy1230

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    So the black shirt guy from the beginning... also took the form of christian? But christian's body wasn't found. Or christian was Jacob's rep and Locke is black shirt guy's rep.
     
  8. May 13, 2009 #28 of 457
    vertigo235

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    Yup, at least, that's what he said at the begining of the episode.

    Poor Richard was totally duped.
     
  9. May 13, 2009 #29 of 457
    Turtleboy

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    Maybe older than you imply.

    If Richard is really "Ricardus" and speaks Latin, and the whole motif is Anicent Egyptian, how far back are we really going to go?
     
  10. May 13, 2009 #30 of 457
    Mike Wells

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    Wow, I'm still trying to get my mind around everything in this ep.

    I think Miles may have the most telling line - something like "what if this bomb you guys want to set off CAUSE the problem and that's why you're here? What if doing nothing is the best idea?" We don't know if the first time around in 1977 the bomb didn't go off and they still built the Swan station, etc. I can see the producers going that route - surprise, the bomb didn't alter anything...

    I sure hope Juliet isn't gone, but it already seems like a cop-out that she survived the fall down that shaft.

    Less likely would be them having Juliet survive, but they might swing it that way too. Maybe the magnetic pocket contained or affected the blast?

    Jacob story line - not sure what to think here. As with the series - who is the good guy? It sure looks like Jacob is the good guy. What is he trying to prove, from the beginning? If Jacob is the island's protector, what happens now?

    Anyone care to translate the Latin?

    I'm pretty sure, whatever happens, that they won't end up landing at LAX. That makes for a very boring season 6. :)

    Also glad to see Rose and Bernard - I had figured they had checked out and were doing their own thing. That's my guess for how this all plays out in the end - some of our original cast members living out their lives on the island in relative peace.

    Ah, more thinking to be done.
     
  11. May 13, 2009 #31 of 457
    vertigo235

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    It sure is a shame that the "good guys" group didn't show Ben what was in that box on the beach that day, that sure could have changed the outcome of this episode.
     
  12. May 13, 2009 #32 of 457
    Philosofy

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    How did Bernard and Rose know what year it was?
     
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    Rob Helmerichs

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    That was my implication. Ancient times. The foundation of the island.
     
  14. May 13, 2009 #34 of 457
    vertigo235

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    The lamest part of the episode though was the fact that Jacob just let Ben stab him like 3 times.
     
  15. May 13, 2009 #35 of 457
    Cindy1230

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    Didn't Ben and Widmore say they couldn't kill each other... it's just a cycle of two guys who can't kill each other... until well...the loophole.
     
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    Queue

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    Interesting that as Ben confronted Jacob there was a very strong, "free will" vs. "temptation" thing going on.
     
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    Mike Wells

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    They had been stealing food - expiration dates? Some other contact with the dharma folks possibly.
     
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    Turtleboy

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    Do you believe that Jacob didn't know that was going to happen?

    Maybe it's Jacob and not Locke that needs to die so that he can be reborn and save humanit. . . er. . . the Island.
     
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    crowfan

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    I liked how, in the opening scene, Jacob and that other guy were wearing white and black shirts respectively.
     
  20. May 13, 2009 #40 of 457
    Mike Wells

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    Chesterfield...
    I thought this might be a Christ allegory, maybe. Of course, I thought that's where they were going with Locke, too.

    If Jacob can heal people, appear and disappear, etc. surely he isn't going to let a stab wound get him down. Oh, and the fire too. Ah well.
     

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