Lost - OAR 4-24-08

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by nrrhgreg, Apr 24, 2008.

  1. Apr 25, 2008 #81 of 229
    Shakhari

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    Well, as much as Ben proclaims his group to be the good guys, it's probably a relative thing, i.e. they're not as bad as the Widmore group ... their motives regarding the island have never struck me as all that altruistic. Plus, I've always thought that the original others, the ones that got Ben to betray Dharma, were the Black Rock crew or their descendants.
     
  2. Apr 25, 2008 #82 of 229
    Bierboy

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    Talk about red shirts....you KNEW that first one was going to bite it....then the two others dropped like flies...
     
  3. Apr 25, 2008 #83 of 229
    aintnosin

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    Maybe Ben's people are Vorlons and Widmore's are the Shadows. ;)

    Okay, so you have to watch Babylon 5 to get that one...:p
     
  4. Apr 25, 2008 #84 of 229
    scsiguy72

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    One thing I really hate about shoot outs. Guys with machine guns can never hit the guy with a pistol that is running through the yard, diving behind trees or fences.
    :mad: :thumbsdown:
     
  5. Apr 25, 2008 #85 of 229
    Mike Farrington

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    That was the distress code. The code for opening the barrier under duress. That code initiated the automated "Code 14J" call to Ben's phone.
     
  6. Apr 25, 2008 #86 of 229
    MickeS

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    That scene was great, by the way. :)

    Why does Ben's jacket that he had on when he woke up in the desert have the name "Halliwax" on it?

    Is Sawyer used for anything but exposition these days? :D
     
  7. Apr 25, 2008 #87 of 229
    NoThru22

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    Halliwax is one of the candle-related aliases of the Asian doctor from the Orientation films. (Wickmund, Candle, Halliwax.)
     
  8. Apr 25, 2008 #88 of 229
    flatcurve

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    I hear ya... you'd think that a trained merc would know to lead their targets...
     
  9. Apr 25, 2008 #89 of 229
    jkeegan

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    So now the piece we gotta look up is what the combo was when Juliette keyed it in.. Was it the same one? I thought it was (even before I heard that it was a duress code), but I'm not 100% sure.
    As was just said, it was one of the Marvin Candle guy names.. In particular, it was the one from the Orchid orientation video, which seems to eliminate most doubt as to how Ben got to the desert.
     
  10. Apr 25, 2008 #90 of 229
    zordude

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    If he was just mentally time travelling, I don't think the version of Ben that belongs in Tunisia would be wearing a parka.

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  11. Apr 25, 2008 #91 of 229
    jkeegan

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    Can't you go change the title of the thread now? That's gonna get awfully confusing a month from now when we're going back to look for the Shape of Things to Come episode (which I believe was the title of this one). Is an admin needed to change the title of a thread?

    Good question.. As others have guessed, I'm guessing it's similar to whatever is helping keep Michael from killing himself, which is probably similar to the universe being able to "course-correct" when events change because of time travel. Maybe they both have information that they're both present at some battle way in the future, so they know they can't be killed, because the universe corrects it..
    Missed how he hurt his arm. As for the Sahara, here's my like fiftieth time strongly suggesting you watch the Orchid Orientation Video. The sick part is interesting.

    I'd actually thought something else last night, which I don't actually believe, but thought significant enough to pause the video to talk about.. What if Ben used the same transport/shift thing in the Orchid video to get to the Sahara, but instead of just moving you it copies you (I've said that before).. What if Ben ends up in the Sahara yet still on the island? Better yet, what if the two copies could somehow communicate with each other or share thoughts? It'd certainly make it easy for Ben to get 3.2 million dollars for Miles (what's important there is that Miles thought it was possible - even laughed at Locke for thinking it wasn't worthy of mention). Like I said, I don't actually believe that, so ignore this entire paragraph.
    Yep, that's what I thought he meant.
    Yeah, that was a very cool scene.. That closed-up club is almost like seeing a small unopened lightsaber.. :)
    (cough)
     
  12. Apr 25, 2008 #92 of 229
    jkeegan

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    I was touched when Sawyer was so protective of Hurley. Sawyer's awesome.
     
  13. Apr 25, 2008 #93 of 229
    vertigo235

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    Yeah, maybe Hanso was working for Whitmore.
     
  14. Apr 25, 2008 #94 of 229
    jkeegan

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    I wonder if the "rules" changing coincide with the numbers disappearing. They've shown us an awful lot of numbers recently (heart monitors, etc) and none of them have had interesting numbers.. None of the flashforwards seem to have them.. It's almost like they're going out of their way to show numbers so we can realize they're no longer present.

    I'm curious exactly when that occurred.. We saw Hurley seeing the numbers on his way to the airport, so at the very broadest, somewhere between him arriving at the flight, and them being off of the island, the numbers either changed or lost their significance. We can make guesses (purple sky?), but I think it'll be more compelling to track it down. Now I thought that in one of the flashback episodes (that happened after the flashforwards.. maybe the Jin flashback?) that they DID show the numbers again - so if I'm right, it's not like the writers just tired of the numbers.. they went away, at some point in time. Maybe the "rules" are tied in with this - i.e. maybe Ben felt confident that Alex would survive because of having seen her in the future or something, and he'd always experienced that nothing changes, but now something did, which is new to him.

    Eh, I dunno.. all I do know is: look for the numbers.. they're not there anymore, and they show an awful lot of numbers. NONE of them are the numbers.
     
  15. Apr 25, 2008 #95 of 229
    vertigo235

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    Good point about the #'s, they seemed to disapear after the Swan was destoryed.
     
  16. Apr 25, 2008 #96 of 229
    PJO1966

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    Did anyone else think that Ben killed Sayid's wife in order to manipulate him into helping kill Widmore's people?
     
  17. Apr 25, 2008 #97 of 229
    jkeegan

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    :D
     
  18. Apr 25, 2008 #98 of 229
    jkeegan

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    Me too! I thought that! Glad to hear I wasn't the only one. :)
     
  19. Apr 25, 2008 #99 of 229
    jkeegan

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    By the way, especially with another game being brought up in this episode (Risk), I absolutely loved the lighting during the encounter between Ben and Widmore.

    Both of their faces, one half in darkness, one half lit.

    Reminded me of Locke describing "the game" to Walt, while they were sitting in front of a backgammon board.
     
  20. jkeegan

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    Eh, I think it'd be kinda cool, myself.
     

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