Lost - Meet Kevin Johnson 3/20

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by Paperboy2003, Mar 20, 2008.

  1. Cindy1230

    Cindy1230 Cuteness overload

    Oct 31, 2003
    Bethesda, MD


    Looks like it. There is no screencap yet.... but it's night and you see a window behind Tom with a highrise building lit up across the way.
  2. cherry ghost

    cherry ghost Well-Known Member

    Sep 13, 2005
    was Ben in his hidden room when he communicated with Michael on the boat?


    Is this just prior to Naomi showing up on the island?
  3. latrobe7

    latrobe7 Fine for real TCF Club

    May 1, 2005
    As an entity or general character I can accept, I mean it's common for a vessel or a place to have a 'personality' in fiction - and in real life. But, I don't recall the Enterprise making conscious decisions or being self-aware, much less omnipotent.
  4. Bryanmc

    Bryanmc I'm normal.

    Sep 5, 2000
    Yeah, I think it's pretty clear that Ben set them up.
  5. Bryanmc

    Bryanmc I'm normal.

    Sep 5, 2000


    The Ultimate Computer
  6. latrobe7

    latrobe7 Fine for real TCF Club

    May 1, 2005
    Yes, well the computer plugged into the Enterprise was what took over, not the Enterprise itself. The Enterprise was under the M5's control.

    Also, that was one episode not an overarching storyline.
  7. MickeS

    MickeS Well-Known Member

    Dec 26, 2002
    I don't really have much of a problem with a storyline that would show that the island was some sort of intelligent being, for example, that could explain a lot of things and be a fun twist.

    I DO have a problem if the island was a being, but could control a hand gun in New York City. For some reason, that stretches believability for me (even though both scenarios are impossible).
  8. Bryanmc

    Bryanmc I'm normal.

    Sep 5, 2000
    I don't understand. Does the island have to be like the Enterprise for some reason?
  9. latrobe7

    latrobe7 Fine for real TCF Club

    May 1, 2005
    Don't ask me, I didn't make the analogy. I was pointing out that if the Island is making conscious decisions and driving the story, it's more of an integral character than the Enterprise ever was; I illustrated that by saying "I don't recall the Enterprise making conscious decisions or being self-aware"; which you quoted with a link to the synopsis of "The Ultimate Computer". I assume to demonstrate that the Enterprise was self-aware?

    My response was to indicate that that's not the same as how the Island is being represented.
  10. stellie93

    stellie93 Well-Known Member

    Feb 25, 2006
    Ben told Juliet and Jack that there was no other way to send them home, but, here's a shocker, clearly Ben lied. ;)

    In the real world that quote is like,"everyone who eats carrots will die." True enough. On the island tho, it might be a new revelation. As it is now, some of the people on the island don't seem to have to worry about ever dying. Or at least not of a disease. Even gunshot wounds seem picky about who they kill. So are they going to destroy the island magic?

    Or maybe it just means they're going to storm in and kill every living person. :confused:
  11. hanumang

    hanumang Active Member

    Jan 28, 2002
    Pittsburgh, PA
    No, this episode (number 8 of the planned 16) was the last episode finished by the writers before the strike.

    What you might be tripping you up is ABC's original broadcast plan once the strike ended. They announced that they would show the first seven (up to Ji Yeon), then come back with this episode plus the post-strike five on April 17. Shortly after they announced that plan though, they changed gears to go 8 and 5, and come back on April 24.

    The point of me bringing this all up is that I would have been happier if they would have stuck to the original plan. I think the end of Ji Yeon, though I didn't like the episode much, would have been a better breaking point.

    I really liked this episode but the way we're left hanging is uncool.
  12. jdfs

    jdfs Unspecial Member

    Oct 21, 2002
    Or a sniper at long range. Bullets through the air don't make a lot of noise, just the initial detonation. Don't know why they would be using silencers.
  13. lew

    lew Well-Known Member

    Mar 12, 2002
    The time line doesn't work at all if Tom has to take a boat or sub to Fuji and then take a scheduled flight. Probably looking at a day and half trip. It might work if the island is less than an hour from an island with a landing strip with a private jet.

    I agree it works best if he can be teleported.

    My guess is we're not suppose to look at the time line as carefully as we are (day to day basis) but rather assume Tom has a week or so (maybe 10 days) instead of the 5 days a poster earlier in this thread calculated (days 83-88).
  14. Rob Helmerichs

    Rob Helmerichs I am Groot! TCF Club

    Oct 17, 2000
    On the other hand, with another few weeks of, well, THAT argument, the universe may well have imploded. At least we're spared that, or those of us who watched the teaser at the end are anyway...
  15. PKurmas

    PKurmas Member

    Apr 24, 2001
    Savannah GA
    I'd choose to look at it as the Island "won't let him" due to some subtle brain reprogramming, here resulting in a subconscious refusal to allow a suicide to succeed. Now, if Michael were to jump from a building I'm sure the Island wouldn't cause the ground to become spongy & save him. But the effect would prevent him from jumping. That would still count as "won't let him" to me.

    Kinda like with Jack.
  16. hanumang

    hanumang Active Member

    Jan 28, 2002
    Pittsburgh, PA
    Yeah, you've got me there. I could only imagine how dug in both sides would have gotten had there been a multi-week break after Ji Yeon.

    Lost - Lindelof mentions on many occasions - takes direct inspiration from shows like The Twiight Zone and X-Files, so I'm comfortable with the island being able to affect things like Michael's suicide attempts, though I understand why non-believers find that dorky.
  17. balboa dave

    balboa dave well rounded

    Jan 19, 2004
    That may be because this flashback was a depiction of Michael telling his story out loud to Sayid and Desmond, and not the usual character back story we're used to seeing.
  18. Turtleboy

    Turtleboy Well-Known Member TCF Club

    Mar 24, 2001
    Ft. Lauderdale
    I guess I was wrong. It happens occasionally. :)
  19. Mike Farrington

    Mike Farrington Lost Member

    Nov 16, 2000
    In all that time, I think the sound of the firing would have eventually reached the targets. I didn't hear any faint shots after the impacts.
  20. getbak

    getbak Well-Known Member

    Oct 8, 2004
    Calgary, AB
    It looks like he's in his secret room in his wheelchair, which he used briefly after his surgery (when he stopped using it, I can't remember).

    Since there was really no information about the Oceanic Six revealed in this episode, the promo that aired after last week's episode (had it been the final episode before the break) would have likely started with "All of the Oceanic Six survivors have been revealed, and you'll soon find out how they got off the island."

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