Lost - Meet Kevin Johnson 3/20

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  1. Mar 21, 2008 #81 of 320
    acej80

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    Ugh, last week I get lambasted for spoilerizing something, someone deems not spoiler worthy, and this week, it goes the other way, someone please make up my mind. :rolleyes:

    Should I add, that the 6 where revealed from watching the show. There was doubt here (and in my mind, who the 6th was), but the end of last nights episode solidified that, and removed all doubt.
     
  2. Mar 21, 2008 #82 of 320
    MitchO

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    I understand the frustration, and in general would agree with you that that bit of information is not spoiler and, in fact, helpful to a lot of discussion going on in these threads. However, it was information in a preview, not on the episode, and there are people who are faithful to the "not watching previews" rule. This particular bit really bends the reasoning, which is why I posted this back at #19:

    And I still recommend everyone, even preview avoiders, just read the bit of info spoilerized here.
     
  3. Mar 21, 2008 #83 of 320
    lew

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    There a few people in this forum who are "over the top" in wanting things spoilerized. Just leave it alone. I never thought the fact that we could read part of the name in the obit meant anything. It could be an alias or a mistake by the newspaper.
     
  4. Mar 21, 2008 #84 of 320
    MitchO

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    That's not the piece of information he "revealed".
     
  5. Mar 21, 2008 #85 of 320
    ToddNeedsTiVo

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    The events in the flashbacks did move quickly. I believe it has been established, though, that events presented in an episode's flashbacks are always sequential with respect to each other. That is, events in flashback scene 1 always occur before events in flashback scene 2, etc.

    Another unique aspect of "Meet Kevin Johnson" was that we only "whooshed" into flashback once, had most of the episode in flashback, and whooshed back to current events near the end. Normally we jump back and forth during an episode. I don't recall them doing it that way before.
     
  6. Mar 21, 2008 #86 of 320
    Cindy1230

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    Was that a digitalized Walt? It does look like him, but i guess they didn't want to credit the actor or have to pay him. screencap
     
  7. Mar 21, 2008 #87 of 320
    jeff125va

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    I think "The Other 48 Days" probably had more time devoted to flashback, but since it didn't start out in what was then "present day" time, it didn't have the whooshes at all. Also, off the top of my head, this might have been the only one where the flashback represented someone actually telling the story to another character(s).
     
  8. Mar 21, 2008 #88 of 320
    gchance

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    I don't think the island has anything to do with it, it's the universe & fate as outlined by Mrs. Hawking. I think that the Others (and Locke) are misinterpreting the situation, that the island has nothing to do with it. At very least it would explain why the gun wouldn't work even though it's off-island.

    I could be wrong, and haven't watched it over, but it looked to me like Tom grabbed Michael's gun after he dropped it.

    It's also possible that it's a temple converted to a station, which is where it got its name, although it doesn't seem likely given the names the other stations have.

    I should also remind everyone, the previews after the show (after the credits, after the producer logos) are ABC's doing. Any revealing of O6 members is who ABC *thinks* the O6 are. It's likely they're correct, and I now think they're correct, but as we've been shown time and time again, they could be as wrong as any of us.

    Greg
     
  9. Mar 21, 2008 #89 of 320
    tiams

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    It didn't look like "Tall Walt". It looked like the young Walt.

    My question is this...When Michael made it back to the real world, why didnt he let someone know where to look for the survivors? He just totally screwed everyone left on the Island. Sure, he could be prosecuted for killing Ana Lucia and Libby if he was found, but what about an anonymous tip?
     
  10. Mar 21, 2008 #90 of 320
    lew

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    Gee during the trial it was pretty clear Kate and Jack were two of the six survivors of the crash. How much more explicit do you need?
     
  11. Mar 21, 2008 #91 of 320
    jradford

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    I'm sorry, and don't take this the wrong way, but you really SHOULDN'T have reminded everyone. I am so ready to let that argument die. Giving people a sliver of hope for why they could still be correct is a scary thought. The bruise I've given myself on my forehead from banging it on the desk may never heal.:D
     
  12. Mar 21, 2008 #92 of 320
    jeff125va

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    As far as when the flashback scenes could have been taking place, here are days in which Tom appeared:

    67 (Michael leaves with Walt in Live Together, Die Alone)
    69 (The Glass Ballerina)
    70,71 (Every Man for Himself)
    73 (I Do, Not in Portland, Stranger in a Strange Land)
    74 (Stranger in a Strange Land)

    80 (Par Avion, The Man From Tallahassee)
    83 (The Brig)

    88 (The Brig)

    91 (The Man Behind The Curtain)
    92, 93 (Through The Looking Glass - he is killed)

    Only possible gaps I see are between days 74 and 80, and 83 and 88. Christmas decorations would have made sense at either time. The latter one seems more likely, since Michael would have been home for barely a week on day 75. His recovery in the hospital was pretty fast even by the latter time-frame, but for him to have arrived home, gotten depressed, crashed his car and recovered, all within 12 days at the most, is just urealistic. ;)
     
  13. Mar 21, 2008 #93 of 320
    MitchO

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    OK well first of all, you just spoiled by telling the people who didn't watch it what the "pertinent information" was in the first place. If you want to preserve the idea of "Don't watch ABC's input", then don't reference what they are even talking about in the first place. I went waaaaay out of my way to try to not describe what piece of info was revealed. Clearly, this piece is too blurry a line for us to keep it unknown though. Yes, the previews give a clear indication of who the O6 are. If you want to know the questionable one (ones?) see my two times quoted spoiler posts.

    Secondly, I'm fairly confident that who the members of the O6 are is way too important for ABC to indicate without confirming with the show itself first.

    It never ceases to amaze me how inane this debate gets. The bulk of the viewers are going to watch it, if you want to deprive yourself of the information, don't make us all jump through friggin' hoops.
     
  14. Mar 21, 2008 #94 of 320
    jeff125va

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    That's not my point. Aaron was clearly - oh jeez, here we go again, how can I phrase this without starting something like last week? - Many people would call him a "survivor." For anyone who wouldn't, the heart that is currently inside his chest, and the brain that is inside his skull, were beating and functioning while they were on the plane enclosed in the skin that now encloses Aaron's body. They continued to function after the crash, and he left the island and made it to civilization safely. Yet even after we knew that, because no one referred to him as a member of the Oceanic Six, there was, and to some there still is, doubt over whether he is a member.

    Since the moniker "Oceanic Six" wasn't used in reference to Jack or Kate, we are essentially relying on what's been stated in podcasts, etc. to confirm their membership in the group. Yes, it was obvious without it, but many would consider it just as obvious about Aaron, yet the question still isn't settled. Some would make similar arguments about Ben - i.e., he was seen alive back in civilization, and he could have faked someone's identity who was on the plane. And there was a lot of controversy about Kate and some people were saying it was "obvious" even before "Eggtown." In fact the producers said it was Kate (as though the first appearance should have been enough to confirm it) before Eggtown aired.
     
  15. Mar 21, 2008 #95 of 320
    acej80

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  16. Mar 21, 2008 #96 of 320
    vertigo235

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    Ok maybe I didn't hear correctly but.

    Didn't Michaels mom ask him where he was for 2 weeks, while michael was actually on the island for 2 months? more time descrepancies? or is the 2 weeks the time Michael was in the hospital?

    Edit: nevermind, I went back and watched the scene with his mom again and she said over 2 months. I must have been half asleep last night.
     
  17. Mar 21, 2008 #97 of 320
    latrobe7

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    I can't recall; can you remind me of some examples of where an ABC promo was wrong?
     
  18. Mar 21, 2008 #98 of 320
    jeff125va

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    I was wondering the same thing.
     
  19. Mar 21, 2008 #99 of 320
    MickeS

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    It was nice to see that piece of information, that they definitely are not part of the O6.
    Other than that, I didn't think this episode was very interesting. Except for the very last scene.
    Oops. Good point!
    But from the preview for next episode
    the preview clearly shows who the O6 are and Michael's not one of them
     
  20. JYoung

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    So how do Ben, Tom, and Batmanuel get to run a corporation on the outside world that has enough of a rep to interest Juliette without money?

    That's something I'd like to see answered.

    I wonder if Tom switched guns then and they were able to get to it in the Pawn Shop. (Does the Pawn Shop guy work for Ben?)
     

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