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Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by Paperboy2003, Mar 20, 2008.
Well, I'd say somewhere between Thanksgiving and Christmas...
Previously, the captain of the freighter (who clearly works for Widmore) told Sayid and Desmond that Ben Linus planted the fake 815 crash.
In this episode Tom tells Michael that Widmore planted the fake crashed plane!
One of them is lying, or
A THIRD PARTY actually planted the plane and Widmore thinks Ben's people did it and Ben's people think Widmore did it!
I love it.
Oh, and by the way, we now know why Tom once told Kate, "Don't worry, you're not my type."
I think we've known Tom was gay for quite a while. It's not news.
I don't think there was ever any ambiguity about what he meant when he told Kate she wasn't his type. (Have you seen Kate? )
I wouldn't consider the beginning of the previews a spoiler it all. It's actually not even a preview. Since it doesn't reveal anything from a future episode, aren't we free to discuss it spoiler-tag-free?
If Widmore is the bad guy, then he conveniently has Frank Lapidus to help with his cover story. I'm leaning toward Ben being the bad guy. But, I guess Miles (by his silence) confirmed that their orders are in fact to kill everyone else, right? I'm not sure why they want Ben, only thought I have is something having to do with revenge for the Dharma purge.
Shouldn't the bomb have been unable to work regardless of whether Ben had rigged it, assuming the island really did prevent the gun from working? And I guess the car accident as well?
I was a little disappointed also that we didn't see how Michael and Walt actually got back, but I'm happy with what we got. I liked how it was mostly flashback material.
It would have to be before Tom was killed, which I believe was around 12/22. Could be narrowed down further perhaps if there's a gap in times when Tom is known to be on the island.
If nothing else, this episodes solves one thing: Who is the hottest woman on the island? Has to be Tania Raymonde (Alex). I always thought that to be the case. BTW, it will be her 20th birthday on Saturday.
What does it matter what her age is. If you think she's hot that just say so no need to justify it. I have always liked Claire and the other girls that were one Roswell and thought they were hot. Is there any reason I shouldn't have thought that?
Previously on Lost...
I almost turned it off right there.
Not to that, but still lots and lots and lots of answers. Heck, Basil "Mr. Friendly" Exposition did a great job confirming all sorts of things people had posted in prior threads.
She's hot, but really, if you thought Kate was thin, holy cow. Her body's only like 2" thick.
Miles just gets creepier every time he shows up -- like when he was on the boat with the orange.
Nice to see that Michael is haunted by Libby. I would've liked to see Anna Lucia haunt him as well.
How did Michael & Walt get to NYC?? Obviously they are NOT part of the Oceanic 6.
I guess "Kevin" can't die because he is alive in the future; so how could he be dead in the past?
This episode confirms my basic theory a bit more.
Ben some how knows that he does something very very important in the future. Something "good."
Ben can get away with anything without fear of dying because he is alive in the future. Although, he can get hurt.
Ben knows who else will be alive in the future; people that also help in doing something very very important. Maybe he gets lists made of these people.
Or Tom rigged the gun.
Interesting episode but not the one I would end a break on.
And you killed Rousseau!
You mean before Michael bought it with Jin's watch?
Yes, Tom was holding the gun but we saw him the whole time, he didn't have a chance to do any rigging. It would have had to have been before Michael bought the gun.
Guys .. did you not notice? Michael is unstuck in time. While in the Hospital we see the old equipment and then the new equipment .. We see not Christmas, then Christmas .. We see Libby, not Libby .. We see young man, Old man.
Libby is Michael's Constant .. That's when Michael "wakes up" and is no longer unstuck in time ..
If Michael's unstuck, he sure is well adjusted. Nah, I don't buy it.
Yep, I think it's been pretty well solved.
I saw it twice (preview flash for The Mole) and was very excited.
Ummmmmmm, no. That's Michael being haunted by the ghost of Libby and just having a bad dream.
You're thinking too hard.
good episode. Still gotta catch up on last week's thread and rewatch this one.
I thought it was a very good episode. Loved the appearance by Mr. Friendly!
OK, so the island won't let Michael die...is this what happens when someone gets off the island? Did the island prevent Jack from killing himself in his flash-forward, by having the accident happen when he was trying to jump off the bridge?
And they made a big point of reminding us that Michael's from New York. We knew Michael could be the "man from New York" who died in Jack's flash-forward, but had no reason to understand why his death would affect Jack so dramatically. Maybe this has something to do with it...that the island finally let Michael die, and it means something to Jack in terms of his or the others survival?
When Michael first came on the freighter and Miles offered him an orange - wasn't that a throwback to the scene when Locke first met Walt?
And speaking of Walt, it looked to me like a different actor when they showed the brief silhouette of him in the window...his body seemed thicker...looks like they went out of their way to not show "tall Walt" off the island.
If the obit says Kevin Johnson, well. . . Walt and his mom doesn't know who Kevin JOhnson is and won't go.
"kevin Johnson, who was on the freigther that rescued the Oceanic six, committed suicide. . ." etc.
Jack gets upset b/c he's Jack. Kate doesn't care b/c she's Kate.