Lost - Meet Kevin Johnson 3/20

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  1. jeff125va

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    Sorry about the unclear use of pronouns. Danielle has talked about Alex's father before. His name is Robert.

    I think there's very little that doesn't make sense once it's been explained. I think that when things don't make sense, it's usually pretty clear that there's something that we don't know. For example, when we first heard Naomi say that the wreckage had been found, there were all kinds of theories about alternate timelines, etc., but now we have, not the entire story, but more than enough of it to provide a pretty rational explanation.
     
  2. latrobe7

    latrobe7 Fine for real TCF Club

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    Well, yeah, but so what? There's no verification of her story; as a matter of fact, most of the things she has said don't make much sense and/or are inconsistent.

    My point exactly.
     
  3. gchance

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    Whoops, I just realized, I got their names confused. Danielle = Rousseau, ALEX = Alex. :) What I said still stays though. :p

    It's been a while, but... you sure it's not Richard? :)

    Greg
     
  4. latrobe7

    latrobe7 Fine for real TCF Club

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    It was Robert. And 16 years, not 12...;)
     
  5. gchance

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    Doesn't matter, Richard can leave and come back willy nilly, AND he stays young. Not to mention he's good looking. What young, beautiful French woman wouldn't want that?

    Greg
     
  6. latrobe7

    latrobe7 Fine for real TCF Club

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    Oh, I see where you're going; sure, why not Richard Alpert? But I'm sticking with Ben until we see Danielle's back-story and see who "Robert" is.
     
  7. mqpickles

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    Didn't Danielle say she killed Robert?

    Of course, if we're going with she's lying, then she could have lied about that too.
     
  8. wprager

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    I rewatched the end, just for fun. A couple of things made me think:

    1. Karl was shot in the back, upper right-hand side. Sure, there's a lung there, but come on, it's *The Island* and, besides, he's got two of them.

    2. When Russeau got shot we didn't see anything. Just the wizz of the bullet and she falls down.

    Why make a special point of showing Karl's wound, and not one for Russeau? Why make sure that the very visible wound is not located near the heart or any other vital organs.

    Wasn't Russeau around when Charlotte got shot? Could she have borrowed the vest? How did Russeau "know" that Karl was "gone" without so much as casting a sideways glance at him? Is there something else there, like Russeau being part of the set up to get rid of Karl? After all, Karl has a loaded weapon pointed at Alex.
     
  9. gchance

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    At this point I have no clue, I don't remember her referring to Alex's father by name anyway. I threw out Richard to be sillly, but when I typed it, it sounded as plausible as just about anything else posted here. Or things that have happened in the show, for that matter.

    It's no different than Christian Shepherd being both Jack's & Claire's dad. Weird coincidences happen on this show.

    Greg
     
  10. jamesbobo

    jamesbobo with a grain of salt

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    As far as Alex being pregnant, I think Ben thinks she is. The camera panned to her abdomen as Ben was looking at her and a small bulge was showing. Ben said that the temple could be the last safe place on the Island. I took that to mean it was the one possible place where she could give birth and not die.

    But I need my memory refreashed, who is Annie?
     
  11. jeff125va

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    It might not have been verified, but usually after someone lies, and then is caught in the lie, then tells what seems to be the truth, it usually is. (in Lost I mean). It made perfect sense after she explained why she had made up the story about the black smoke.

    But what doesn't make sense at this point about Alex? What needs explaining? We know the Others like to kidnap kids. We know that Ben's a far bigger liar than Rousseau. I guess I'm just not sure what's prompting this speculation in the first place. I mean, we didn't see Christian Shephard and Claire's mom having sex, or even lying naked in bed together. So why hasn't anyone ever brought up that Ben might be Claire's dad?
     
  12. jeff125va

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    Ben's childhood friend from the episode where we saw him arriving on the island when he was around 12 years old. ("The Man Behind The Curtain") What became of her was never really explained. It seemed that they were close and that he wouldn't have killed her off in the purge (which was years later), but it was never addressed either way.
     
  13. latrobe7

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    Very little of Danielle's stories have been vetted to where she would be caught in the lie in the first place. She says she has been there 16 years, which means DHARMA would have been in full force, yet she doesn't mention anything about DHARMA, only the Others, who she claims only to have heard in the form of whispers but never actually seen. So she thinks Sayid is an Other and tortures him for info about Alex. Yet, when she captures Ben - the first real Other she has encountered in 16 years, apparently - she doesn't question him about Alex, she hands him over to the Losties, telling Sayid not to trust him and that he "will lie, for a long time... he will lie." How does she know that?

    She also said that the radio tower was near the Black Rock and controlled by the Others; but the radio tower is on a hill, in a clearing and abandoned. I just think there is very little on which to base her credibility.

    And as far why the speculation in the first place, it keeps me busy between episodes. And if Claire had been born on the Island, and her mom also lived on the Island Claire's entire life, and Claire was raised by Ben; then the idea of Ben being her dad would probably be floated...
     
  14. MonsterJoe

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    +1 This is the thought that comes to mind everytime someone shoots someone's theory down.
     
  15. jeff125va

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    I guess. But I'm going to remain skeptical until we at least see Ben and Danielle lying naked in bed together. And if that's all they show, I'm sure there'll still be more debate about it. :)
     
  16. Cindy1230

    Cindy1230 Cuteness overload

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    I don't have anything Lost related to say, but it's my 100th post and this where I wanted it to be. :D
     
  17. unicorngoddess

    unicorngoddess Wooooonicorngodess

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    Then HAPPY YAMM to you! :up:
     
  18. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

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    Why do you say that DHARMA would have been around 16 years ago when Danielle's ship crashed on the Island? I don't remember any specific time clues for the Purge, but I remember getting the sense that it was mid-80s.
     
  19. jeff125va

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    True. I can't see how Ben could have had Alex at the time of the purge. I know they've gone back to previous scenes from different perspectives and stuff, but Alex would have been VERY young at that time if she had been born by then. Roger's corpse looked pretty rotted. (I'm not a forensic anthropologist, but I watch them on TV.) I think the purge was before Alex was born. Have we had any indication that Dharma was into kidnapping children?
     
  20. latrobe7

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    Based on Mikhail's story that he came to the Island 11 years prior 2004 as a member of the DHARMA Intiative. The producers have said that we should believe Mikhail's story, except that he was not a member of DHARMA.

    ETA: Also, Kelvin Inman, who was in DHARMA (in the Hatch) could not have gotten to the Island before the early 90's, due to his participation in the first Iraq invasion.
     

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