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Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by HDTivoUser, Mar 13, 2008.
So, according to Jin's tombstone....he died on the day of the crash. Interesting!
And there was no indication of hiding a secret between her and Hurley, as if they believed he died on that day.
I call shenanigans on the flashback/forward mix tho~
They totally got me on the flashback/flashforward.
Heh. That was devious.
They got me too
I agree. It was a beautiful fake, but kind of a cheat since the ONLY purpose of Jin's flashbacks were to fake us out. That seems a little beneath this show.
(Which only shows how highly I regard this show!)
So Sun is obviously one of the 6, but Jin is not.
All of the spoiler sites had the six as Jack, Kate, Hurley, Sayid, Sun and Jin.
But if they are sticking to the story that 8 survived the crash, two died on the island, and only 6 got off, then we still don't know who the 6th is.
Possibly, but doubtfully Michael.
Flashback and flash forward in the same episode ... it's almost enough to cause an aneurysm.
Maybe Aaron does count.
I'm glad Jin's was a flashback. I thought for a bit that he had turned back into an ass****.
So I guess the big mystery is: Is Jin alive and well on the island, or really dead (with an obviously fudged date of death). If Sun knew he was still alive, would she visit his grave marker to speak with him? Tough call.
I've always thought he counted. They haven't given any explanation for why he wouldn't.
I called the back/foward flashes. It became blindingly obvious when Jin dropped his cell phone after his cab got hijacked and it was like REALLY old. No way if Jack is using a Razr in present day post-island time is Jin using that kind of agent technology. Not in Korea.
Cuse and Lindeloff in their podcast has said that Aaron is NOT one of the six. I think.
The ambiguity of Aaron counting is what helped make the fake work. I think even during last week's preview of this episode, the narrator said that we'd meet 'the last of the Oceanic six' and not 'the last survivor' or something like that. It could have been one or two.
I can't decide if I'm pissed or I admire them for committing half the episode on an audience fake out.
The "year of the dragon" comment by the cashier in the store where Jin was shopping for the Panda tipped it off for me. So, his flashback may have been in 2000, that last year of the dragon. I can't find anywhere that says when Jin and Sun got married. In his flashback he says they've been married 2 months.
My wife and I were debating and counting to see if Aaron counted. Technically he wasn't a passenger on the flight, but if only six came back and he was one...then we have our six. Jack, Kate, Hurley, Sayid, Sun and Aaron.
I didn't think it was a cheat to have the flash back and flash forward together anymore than how the producers have been manipulating us all along.
I kinda had my doubts he was with her in the hospital when he said to her on the island that he would never leave her. That's right up there with the cop about to retire is the one that gets shot kind of obvious plotline.
Is Jin dead? Or is he back on the island? It's LOST.
But if Aaron doesn't count, then they would have to either explain his appearance when the rest were rescued or they had to somehow sneak him off.
I think they left that ambiguous. I can't remember Sun or Hurley saying anything about his being dead, other than Hurley's "should we go see him"?
Did anyone else see the short clip of Nikki starring in Exposé on Sun's TV?
It looked like there were two birthdates on the tombstone, and only one death date. So I guess the tombstone could have been put up when the fake victims were found in the fake salvage, and been for both Sun and Jin. So Jin could still be on the island.
Or he could have been one of the Oceanic 6 and died since.