Lost 5-8-08 Cabin Fever

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  1. May 9, 2008 #81 of 323
    spikedavis

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    I don't see why people assume she's dead too. That's kind of a leap. She's more....hypnotized.
     
  2. May 9, 2008 #82 of 323
    vertigo235

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    Well, if Locke did "fail" the test, then why was Richard so ga ga over him when he finally met him on the island. Don't you remember that? He was Locke's ally in the others, he gave him the file on his dad, etc.

    BTW, isn't Richard dead now? I seem to have a hole in my memory there.
     
  3. May 9, 2008 #83 of 323
    SoBelle0

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    WOW!!! This was a fantastic episode!

    Michael Emerson never ceases to amaze. :up: Ooooh, he's a master!

    That was certainly my take on it. I couldn't think of any other reason why she wouldn't even have asked Locke about Aaron...

    and, yeah, there's going to be something more from the Jack/illness/surgery bit... he was way to 'back to normal' on this episode. If the Island were saving/healing him, would have even needed the surgery? Whats-her-name? Darn! Can't recall - but the SOS interpreter guy's wife... anyhoo - she made a great point last week - the Island heals, it doesn't make you sick. I'm curious to see the point of that. Does the Island not want him to leave, part of the Jack's not supposed to raise Aaron story?
     
  4. May 9, 2008 #84 of 323
    Fish Man

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    Rose. :) ;)

    I've been thinking along those same lines.

    Jack's leaving the island is a "mistake", and he comes to clearly understand that it's a mistake. That's why he spirals into depression, drug addiction, and alcoholism.

    Hurley leaving the island may be a mistake too... Being back in the real world makes him crazy again. He becomes convinced he's dead.
     
  5. May 9, 2008 #85 of 323
    jeff125va

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    Perhaps they purposely chose a song from the wrong year to distract people from the far more blatantly obvious BSR OEM turntable mechanism with plastic platter and plastic tone arm anachronism. The viewers would all have been too busy discussing how the song came out a year after Locke was born to notice. :D
     
  6. May 9, 2008 #86 of 323
    jeff125va

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    No, he went to the temple with the rest of the Others a while back.

    My interpretation was that the first few items indicated that Locke was "special" and that Locke actually knew that the knife didn't really belong to him, but he was sort of giving in to some sort of selfish desire to have it. Or something along those lines. So Richard knew (or was pretty sure) that Locke was supposed to be "chosen" but wasn't mature enough for it at the time, but figured he had matured considerably by the time he'd gotten to the island. Especially if Richard knew what Locke had gone through with his injury and everything.
     
  7. May 9, 2008 #87 of 323
    Fish Man

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    Thank you!!

    It was driving me crazy. I knew we'd seen him on "Lost" before and couldn't place him.

    Now that you point it out, no doubt whatsoever it's supposed to be the same character (and not just the same actor playing two different parts).
     
  8. May 9, 2008 #88 of 323
    spikedavis

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    He isn't dead-the last we saw of him was the Season 3 finale when Ben sent him and the remaining Others to the Temple to wait for him.
     
  9. May 9, 2008 #89 of 323
    betts4

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    I may be smeeking here, but with Lost and the play on the names of characters, I went and looked this one up -

    I wonder if we'll have an episode entitled "Be Here Now" r.e. Richard Alpert http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Alpert The name can't be a coincidence with this lot of writers.
     
  10. May 9, 2008 #90 of 323
    latrobe7

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    I thought Locke as a boy failed the test, as well. When John shows up on the Island, Alpert realizes he was wrong. That's why he helps John by giving him the file on Sawyer.

    I also think Claire is "dead" - in the same way Christian Sheppard is "dead", whatever that state really is.
     
  11. May 9, 2008 #91 of 323
    teknikel

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    She doesn't have to be dead. Didn't Shannnon see a Walt apparition and we later found out that he wasn't dead?
     
  12. May 9, 2008 #92 of 323
    Skittles

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    Someone pointed this out to me in a phone call this morning (Thanks, Parris!) and now I'm starting to think that Locke failed the test, as well.

    When Locke is picking out the items on the table, he picks out the vial of sand and the compass. He doesn't really hesitate with those two items, he just kind of grabs them.

    But then the camera shows his face, and it's as though he's putting serious thought into his selection. The camera shows the Book of Laws and Locke looking at it, and there's a moment where it looks like he's going to pick it... and then he grabs the knife instead.

    I wouldn't be surprised if he *knew* he was supposed to pick up the Book, but intentionally chose the knife to throw the test. It would be fitting with the rest of the theme of the episode, which is "John Locke spent 50 years refusing to follow his destiny"
     
  13. May 9, 2008 #93 of 323
    jeff125va

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    Definitely not a coincidence, but out of all the references to philosophers, etc. the only related episode title I can think of is the Locke-centered "Tabula Rasa."
     
  14. May 9, 2008 #94 of 323
    milo99

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    i like this.. except for that it's John, not Benjamin Locke :)
     
  15. May 9, 2008 #95 of 323
    spikedavis

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    Also just thought of another thing....

    Richard works for The Others. He was part of the plan to kill the Dharma Initiative.

    Abaddon works for Mr Widmore/The Dharma Initaitive. He basically "nudged" Locke to go on his walkabout-presumably with the intention of getting him on the island.

    So both sides were basically putting their feelers out to Locke before he got on the island...
     
  16. May 9, 2008 #96 of 323
    hefe

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    Tabula Rasa was Kate-centered.

    Walkabout was the early Locke episode.
     
  17. May 9, 2008 #97 of 323
    jehma

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    Although they both had a mother named Emily.
     
  18. May 9, 2008 #98 of 323
    teknikel

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    Whoa! That can't be a coincidence.
     
  19. May 9, 2008 #99 of 323
    spikedavis

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    More than likely just emphasizing that they are two sides of the same coin.
     
  20. May 9, 2008 #100 of 323
    milo99

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    hmmm... i was wondering what Abaddon's deal was, was he actually a double agent somehow? or had his own agenda? but this makes more sense, although, how would Widmore know anything about Locke's specialness?
     

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