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Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by jkeegan, Feb 2, 2010.
Charles Widmore and company?
That's what I thought as well.
Here's my theory. And the nature of time travel makes this confusing to state, so bear with me.
The point of the bomb was to retroactively change the past such that the plane never crashed (et al.). It failed. However, something later in the season will happen that will finish what it started, and succeed. The story following that will be the alternate version of events caused by that retroactive change, the storyline in which the plane never crashed, and the island is underwater.
The "alternate reality" scenes we are seeing are, thus, yet another flashforward/flashback, just like the ones we've been seeing all along. I.e., seeing the story of Lost out of order. In this case, though, it's a flashforward to a later part of the story, though it's also a flashback to an earlier part of the history.
Oh, I had a thought that the spring could be a Fountain of Youth but forgot to post it.
I do think it plays into why Ricardus doesn't seem to age.
What is Jacob and MIB are angels and Jacob has tethered MIB to this world. Jacob wants to prove that man, even with free will, can choose a righteous path. MIB just wants to go back to heaven.
I didn't understand any of that. But nice try.
I actually understood it.
Mostly because this is what my wife thinks. And my wife doesn't read any message boards, nor listens to any podcasts. She watches the show (as she says, with a big question mark or WTF? hanging over her head), and asks me to help explain things.
But, she came up with that same theory on her own. It boils down to this - the 'flashsideways' is really just how the show is going to end. That's the timeline we'll see intact.
I think that theory is, as my PhD adviser loved to say, brilliant but wrong.
I think where they're heading is that these are two different worlds existing simultaneously, and that's a problem that needs to be resolved.
Yeah, I think the two timelines will at some point and somehow unify; the way a stream would if it a boulder was thrown into it (to use Faraday's analogy). The water flows around the boulder as two streams, then come back together on the other side.
I don't think it's about existing simultaneously at all - it's all predicated on this is what happened. I don't think it's anything about convergence at all... Remember Jacob and MIB saying "it's the same thing over and over".
What happened, happened. In both instances.
Imagine that flight 815 crashed. All the events that happened with it happened. Same thing with the Blackrock. All the events that happened with it, happened. Now - because a few people from the Flight 815 instance actually came back and tried to alter what happened, an anomaly was created that created the loophole MIB was after. Jacob also was able to set into motion events that would help his cause as well.
All the stuff that we see of Flight 815 landing is red-herring. We're getting glimpses of what would have happened - not actually what is happening. I don't think it's parallel at all. We're seeing what would have happened, not what happened. That's the difference (and also just my theory).
Sure, we have to reconcile that the Blackrock is there and in the same instance as Flight 815, but for all we know, this is the umpteen-thousandth iteration occurring.
While I agree with you - you can tell my wife that. I'm not telling her she's wrong!
I think where they're heading is that these are two different worlds existing simultaneously, and there is no problem that needs to be resolved.
That would make for a pretty boring season...
Well I'm sure there will be lots of problems
I guess I should clarify that I mean that I don't think the two realities need to be resolved into one "right" reality.
Would you care to place a small wager?
Say, winner gets to roundly mock the loser?
Ooof, I can't think of a worse ending than to show tens or hundreds of parallel universes, all at different stages and with different conclusions. All stretching out on the screen saying, "Thanks for blowing 6 years watching this. Turns out nothing really matters."
2 realities? Just slightly less worse than that.
Is Marv Wolfman writing this season?
Crisis On Two Earths?
Anyone else notice that the note from Jacob was, essentially, a list of names? Maybe Jacob is Santa Claus
So the theory I was thinking about this morning in the shower is that the timelines will unify at the end of the series, the alternate timeline (currently in '04) will move along quickly so that by the last episode the timelines are lined up ready to unify. The 6 remaining people that Jacob has touched will come together in some kind of Voltron-like way to reconstitute Jacob; or fight for Jacob, and will defeat the MIB which will somehow bring the timelines together. In doing so, they will also have to sacrifice themselves, all the 815ers will die and their alternate selves will continue on in the unified timeline. This way everyone dies and yet also lives happily ever after.