Looks like Best Buy is dumping TiVo

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    dmk1974

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    Jeeters

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    I bought my Roamio and mini at Best Buy. I remember that only one particular store of the half dozen in my area carried them.

    I didn't want to buy online direct from TiVo - was afraid of the box with TiVo logos all over just attracting a porch thief.
     
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    mattyro7878

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    I think its more a case of Tivo having nothing to sell. The Edge is quite simply not a sellable product. I would the minis are soon to be gone with a new model in the works and the Bolts? Tivo will squeeze them for all the heavily discounted dollars they can get
     
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    squiredogs

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    Is there a new Mini on tap?

     
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    wmcbrine

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    Sad. IIRC, all my TiVos that I didn't get online or used were from Best Buy.
     
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    wizwor

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    Niche product with pricing competition from Amazon and Tivo.com. No surprise.
     
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    aaronwt

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    WHy isn't the Edge a sellable product? I know I would prefer to have an Edge over a Bolt. Just for the different form factor. But if the Edge isn't sellable then neither is the Bolt.

    Although I like the Bolt because it can be used with either OTA or Cable(or at least that was the case with the WHite Bolt). While the edge needs a specific version to work with either OTA or cable.
     
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    OrangeTurtle

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    the funny part is their "clearance" price isn't all that great of a price. I've seen better sale prices. Like others have said not a shock if BB drops it- Tivo is a niche product. I still like it and use it (despite underwhelming newer products), but know I'm not part of the masses.
     
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    trip1eX

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    CommunityMember

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    BB regularly stops stocking products when they don't have great sales to justify the shelf space or that the manufacturer has decided no longer continue to pay the stocking/slotting fee (a pay to play game used to get lower volume/profit devices in the eyes of the consumers who walk the aisles(*) of retail establishments).

    One can lament that TiVo will not longer be in the aisles at BB, but those that want one still can get one.

    (*) Back when consumers regularly walked the aisles of Best Buy. In numerous locations one can do so again, but not everywhere, and typically only with various restrictions that tend to discourage random walking of the aisles looking for something interesting.
     
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    slowbiscuit

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    And is absolutely ridiculous and unjustfiable in today's market. There's not enough rich people that want an old school DVR.
     
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    wizwor

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    In today's market? That is what kept me away for so many years.
     
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    shwru980r

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    If I were in the market for a bolt, I'd buy one from craigslist or ebay, especially since the ones from Best Buy don't have all-in service on them.
     
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    mntvjunkie

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    Yup. Especially when a cable company DVR is now often included at no additional charge. But even when there is a charge, it’s $10 a month. That puts break even at almost 8 years, assuming it lasts that long and you don’t need to replace anything. And at $10 a month, if a better box comes along, you just trade it in.

    That all doesn’t consider how easy streaming services are with cloud DVR capability.
     
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    zalusky

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    Thats the big key if I was starting today however My TV event watching now favors streaming and I use Apple TV for that.
    The wife records a lot of cooking shows and I haven't nudged her over yet to streaming options. She old school loops through the guide on her favorite channels.

    About the only thing I use the Tivo for is Live TV AKA News and the late night guys before I fall off to sleep. I cannot see investing in them again if for some reason a tech shift required a box upgrade.
     
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    wizwor

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    Very good point. When I jumped in, a lot of people were talking about ATSC 3.0. I could not see ATSC 3.0 displacing ATSC 1.0 within five years, so I bought three TiVos. That was in the summer of 2015. Five years later, ATSC 1.0 is still king. My last two Roamio/OTAs were only $199 all in, so I did not think much about anything -- proverbial no brainer. Still not sure ATSC 3.0 will catch, but, if it does, it will probably become important within five years. Still a no brainer for a $300 all in DVR. Not so much for a $900 DVR.

    On the cable side, we are already seeing changes which would give me pause. On Demand, Cloud DVRs, and apps are no doubt already hitting TiVo's bottom line where it hurts.
     
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    zalusky

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    And the possibility of some point in certain regions that Cable Cards are no longer supported would nuke the cable side of things fast. I don't do OTA because as I mentioned above I watch little broadcast. Other than the late night shows we are rarely on NBC/ABC/CBS and I get the PBS shows from the streamer.
     
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    mntvjunkie

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    Exactly. I have a lifetime Roamio that I bought in 2013 that is definitely on it's last legs. I won't be replacing it. Pre-roll ads gave me the first "pause" and being on the Xfinity footprint gave me the second pause. Xfinity has been adding more and more HDTV channels, but all are IPTV only.

    That said, I'm cheap, so I am trying to get as much life out of the Roamio as I can. Once it fails, I'll be moving to X1 and not looking back. At 6 years, and having paid over $1000 for it "all in" I still haven't "broken even" on it. If I can squeeze one more TV season out of it, and replace it in 2021, it will have been as cheap as renting an X1 DVR. If not, it will have been at a "premium" despite being a slightly worse experience.
     
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    tenthplanet

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    There has never been enough people who want to buy dvrs, ever..
     
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