Login didn't "work" - had to reactivate account?

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  1. drew2k

    drew2k Drew != Drawn

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    Doug: Tthanks for the link and step-by-step instructions. (That's easier than what I've been doing!)

    David: Unlike the others who have so far reported Gmail, my email account is through "Yahoo!". I have not gotten any indications that TCF mail was bounced into the spam folder, and I didn't get any PMs that my mail from TCF could not be delivered.

    Follow-up: I just checked and found I do have a PM about bounced email messages, but I didn't receive a pop-up about it, so thought I didn't have one.

    However, my Yahoo! account has been receiving emails from other sources (DBSTalk forums, for one), so my email account is still working properly. I think the problem was from here at TCF overnight, not from Yahoo.
     
  2. rkester

    rkester a rkester says what?

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    drew - What I have to wonder is if it was a glitch on the TCF side... because there is NO way that I got 172 bounced messages in a day or even a week.
     
  3. windracer

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    I just noticed I had the automatic PM about bounced e-mails as well (34 total).
     
  4. rkester

    rkester a rkester says what?

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    Unless the 4-5 thread I was subscribed to with activity tried to send the email out dozens of times each anyway.
     
  5. drew2k

    drew2k Drew != Drawn

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    My PM said I had 93 bounced messages. I wonder if Yahoo has a type of check for Denial-of-Servcie attacks, so if one their servers detect multiple messages from one source they temporarily black-list that source?
     
  6. dswallow

    dswallow Save the Moderatоr TCF Club

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    I have no indication of bounced emails; though there was that time not too long ago when no one was receiving the emails... might've been a server problem that then incremented something making it look like email delivery problems existed for some, and when David did whatever he did manually put us where we are today.
     
  7. David Bott

    David Bott Administrator Staff Member Administrator

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    It seems that Yahoo and gmail started bouncing the messages based on the amount that was coming into them. It seems to have been corrected for I just looked and gmail is going out as well as yahoo.

    See what happens what you subscribe to a lot of threads. :) The bounces stack up quickly when a service rejects the mail.
     
  8. Polcamilla

    Polcamilla -b±√(b^2 - 4ac)/2a

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    Uh....I haven't changed my email address in over 10 years, so I'm pretty sure it predates my TCF membership by no small amount. :)

    Oh, and my email is neither through Gmail or Yahoo.
     
  9. David Bott

    David Bott Administrator Staff Member Administrator

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    Also fixed the TC Club issue. It seems that I had it set that if you got bast the 20 bounced e-mail limit it also resets your user group.
     
  10. rkester

    rkester a rkester says what?

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    ::and there was much rejoicing::
     
  11. David Bott

    David Bott Administrator Staff Member Administrator

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    I guess yo did not read the above responses. :)
     
  12. Polcamilla

    Polcamilla -b±√(b^2 - 4ac)/2a

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    I did, but they didn't make much sense to me. I did check my PMs and saw there was one about emails bouncing, but I have no idea why---I got other emails during the same time period.
     
  13. Fofer

    Fofer Bo55man69

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    This wasn't an issue strictly with subscriptions though, but rather, sending out emails associated with those subscriptions. There's an option to subscribe without getting emails (that's what I do.)

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    If subscribing to a lot of threads is a problem -- you've said that's not "using the site as it should be," then why are any of these options available?
     
  14. dswallow

    dswallow Save the Moderatоr TCF Club

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    One aspect of the emailed notifications that I like is that I've often enough been able to actually read posts that the (overzealous) moderators have deleted before I've gotten to read new posts the normal way.

    I'd actually like to see an option to receive an email of all new posts as they happen rather than it only being the first new post to a thread until I visit the forum again. :)
     
  15. Fofer

    Fofer Bo55man69

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    Considering this thread, I'm thinking David would prefer to send out less emails, not more. :p
     
  16. dswallow

    dswallow Save the Moderatоr TCF Club

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    Yeah, I suppose. Though I could actually accomplish what I suggested myself; I'd just stick a small script on my computer that made one http request from the site with user credentials every 10 or 15 seconds; that'd pretty much get me an emailed copy of all postings to subscribed threads, except for the times when we get more than one new post every 15 seconds or so... which really aren't that often, at least outside the "thinking" threads. ;)
     
  17. Fofer

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    Me, I'm happy just reading what's there, when I visit. If a post got deleted by a mod (overzealous or not) I'm perfectly happy remaining oblivious.

    Hell, if I had the smarts to create some scraping script to gather every single post every 10 seconds, I'd hope to also have the wisdom... to direct my priorities elsewhere. :D
     
  18. dswallow

    dswallow Save the Moderatоr TCF Club

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    No no... no scraping; just a single http request every 10 or 15 seconds with login credentials so it resets the forums tracking of what threads get "new" posts so email notifications get sent. As it is with a regular browser a typical page that's displayed ends up being several hundred http requests itself since each graphic element has to be retrieved; so doing a single http request every 10 seconds would amount to the same load on the server as a browser retrieving one page about every 30 minutes. Very minimal.

    Scraping to get every post would be much different and pretty cumbersome, though would have the advantage of being able to place the post contents into a real database to allow real searching. :)
     
  19. Fofer

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    Oh, in that case... I stand corrected. :D
     
  20. David Bott

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    The idea is LESS e-mails being sent. We send tens of thousands a day as it is. :(

    And Fofer, yes, I was talking about subscribing for e-mail to be send and not just for tracking threads in the CP. Though that was a given seeing we were talking about e-mails. :)

    I am adding in a Barracuda Spam Firewall today where I could actually limit the amount of mail sent to a user if I find it necessary. Not to mention stop spam attacks and that have you from going though if the server is spoofed. Seeing the size of the site, I want to be sure to offer more protection for all involved.

    Take care guys.
     

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