Let's Hear It For Legacy TiVos!!!

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by mahermusic, Feb 13, 2015.

  1. HerronScott

    HerronScott Well-Known Member

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    According to TiVo themselves, the S1's started rolling off the manufacturing line on March 31, 1999. See the Blue Moon post from TiVoPony.

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=293830&highlight=Blue+Moon

    But I'm sure you are right that end users couldn't actually buy them until they got to stores. I don't recall hearing of any being out in 1998 although I'm sure they would have had development boxes being tested.

    Scott
     
  2. tarheelblue32

    tarheelblue32 Well-Known Member

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    I like my LG washing machine and dryer.
     
  3. Arcady

    Arcady Stargate Fan

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    I was referring to electronics, not applicances. If a company can't make a motor that spins, there's really something wrong with them.
     
  4. scandia101

    scandia101 Just the facts ma'am

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    Most of today's appliances are electronics.
     
  5. HarperVision

    HarperVision TiVo's Italian Cuz!

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    LG was (is?) the parent company of Zenith, who was a powerhouse in its day.
     
  6. tarheelblue32

    tarheelblue32 Well-Known Member

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    Our old pre-HDTV tube TVs were all Zeniths. I honestly wasn't aware that the Zenith brand still existed.
     
  7. Arcady

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    LG bought Zenith out of bankruptcy in the 90's. The division of Zenith that made cable boxes was sold off in 2000, to become part of Motorola's cable box division. What's left of the Zenith name is just re-branding of LG products.

    LG is the 20 year old re-branding of Goldstar (Lucky Goldstar) which is a Korean company.
     
  8. HarperVision

    HarperVision TiVo's Italian Cuz!

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    Yeah, something like that, thanks. :)
     
  9. LI-SVT

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    I am also still using a Series 2. I just sold the two TiVo HDs I had. I replaced them with Premiers about two years ago for the main TVs. I continued to use one TiVo HD on a bedroom TV for a while. Now I added a Roamio on the primary TV, moved one Premier and sold off both THDs. I use the S2 to record programs on copy protected channels, them transfer them in to the Series 4/5 universe. This allows me to watch these programs out of home.
     
  10. kettledrum

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  11. hoyty

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    This is old thinking on LG to say the least. I would argue that they are a top tier (in top 3) HDTV maker. They also are the only place almost to get OLED. I have several LG TV's used for digital signage for 24 hours a day for years.

    I would buy an LG HDTV without a second thought over any other brand especially considering price / performance.
     
  12. hoyty

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    To the op topic I had my DirecTiVo around Christmas 2000 which was Sony branded and one of the first dual tuner TiVo ever. Had a few of those until I moved to a pre-ordered HR10-250, recording HD content was awesome. Eventually I left DirecTV for FIOS and got Series 3, which is off currently but works and I may hook up for OTA. Now loving my Roamio hooked to horrible Comcast overcompressed HD. (Which is why I want OTA.)
     
  13. Series3Sub

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    Totally agree. The S3 648 is truly the Cadillac of ALL DVR's. A very solid build and that LOVELY OLED that I really do use and need when I want to know what is recording or ned to confirm the right thing is recorded, but the OLED is just high-end TiVo premium thinking. Every DVR should have an OLED.

    Unfortunately, every cable co is moving to MPEG, and variants of the S3 will become useless to cable subscriber, the largest number of TiVo subscribers. However the S3's are GREAT workhorse DVR's that can still record OTA antenna TV. And I for one still LIKE the legacy EPG because it is straight forward, non-cluttered, and does not have that stupid "Discovery Bar."

    Look, no question the S5 Roamio line is truly state of the art and does really do circles around S3's and earlier series as far as the mobile and streaming features we demand today as well as the economical route of a Mini instead of another box in a second of third room, but to me the S3 648 is what all DVR's should've been or should be. Sorry, but the S4's and S5's just don't look as nice a piece of equipment as the 648's. I even USE the S3 HD(XL)'s resolution annunciaters all the time when some local widescreen sub-channel OTA claims HD when the TiVo shows the channel as operating at 480i. I JUST LOVE IT!

    S5's are highly recommended, but I shed many tears for the more simple and rock solid S3 line. That was when days were much better at TiVo and the folks at Alviso designed for QUALITY. Those day are gone at TiVo. :(
     
  14. lessd

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    That unit (S3) come out at $799 in Sept of 1996, and was the first HD DVR that TiVo made, before that if you wanted to record in HD you had to use the Cable co. DVR. Today not many people are going to pay that type of money for any DVR (you had to add Lifetime Service or monthly to that price). I had one and it took about 60 watts to run, compared to about 25 watts for the Roamio. You may think that it was designed for QUALITY but that was no more true than then the Roamio is today (people did among other things had power supply problem with the S3 TiVos and not ever making use of a single M cable card was another big cost disadvantage for many cable users as an extra can cost you $7.45/month + tax in many cable system). For any co to stay in business you have to make a product at the correct price point, one that will give the co. some money and many customers will purchase as one must sell in volume.
    Remember the age of the hand wired TVs as an advertising point ?:D.
     
  15. Arcady

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    You're only 10 years off. It came out in September 2006.
     
  16. Bigg

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    WOW, those are some old TiVos!! Our S2 died in 2011, it was time to move on to HD at that point anyway.

    ^^^Post of the week!
     
  17. wmcbrine

    wmcbrine Well-Known Mumbler

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    I'm not sure what you're talking about here, but the source resolution is available in the Info pop-up on S4 & S5.
     
  18. dlfl

    dlfl Cranky old novice

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    Yeah. His post keeps mentioning the model 648, which is the S3 OLED. But then he calls it a s3 HD (XL), which would be the TiVo HD XL, model 658. I have a TiVo HD (model 652) which is one of the three Series 3 models, and it also gives the source resolution in the info pop-up.
     
  19. unitron

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    The 648 came out and had HD in big letters on the box, as I recall, and was the only HD capable TiVo (of the non-satellite persuasion) for a while, until the 652/658 models came out, and TiVo didn't make a big deal out of them also being S3 platform machines, but did name them HD, which just created confusion.
     
  20. Bigg

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    You mean MPEG-4? All cable companies use MPEG. They are becoming obsolete, which is unfortunate, since TiVo could have updated them, but they aren't there quite yet.
     

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