Let the CES RumorMongering begin!

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by Justin Thyme, Dec 28, 2005.

  1. Jan 4, 2006 #61 of 291
    manooosie

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    DCIFRTHS

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    I'd go with too weird .... :cool:
     
  3. Jan 4, 2006 #63 of 291
    MichaelK

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    actually the humax press release i saw basically said it was Humax's device. Their reference design. That they were building them for any content providers who wanted it. They said it was humax software and they wrote the code so differnt content providers could drop their particular UI on top.

    So I think it's a humax product that they customized with Directv's menu system.
     
  4. Jan 4, 2006 #64 of 291
    davezatz

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    Bally's $125.10/nt through ReserveTravel (who I've never heard of). I'm so tempted to pull the trigger... but, but, but.
     
  5. Jan 4, 2006 #65 of 291
    rainwater

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    The Macworld Expo starts January 9th. So there's not much reason for them to be at CES.
     
  6. Jan 4, 2006 #66 of 291
    MichaelK

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    the humx press release explaining it is posted by lee is here http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=3636976&&#post3636976

    also further down that thread talks about a thomson handlheld with similar functionality. I wonder who the third will be to make Chase Carry's comment about several devices come true?

    I wish there were SEVERAL people talkign about interoperability with TiVo DVR's and not just Directv's...
     
  7. Jan 4, 2006 #67 of 291
    ZeoTiVo

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    what really surprises me is that the AMD alchemy chip that is being used in the Humax reference design was anounced at last CES in conjunction with TiVo and the press release is still on AMD's website .

    HUMAX has finally delivered on the potential of this chip but where has TiVo, inc been in all this :confused:
     
  8. Jan 4, 2006 #68 of 291
    Kanyon71

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    Things like this kind of make me wonder if TiVo is really hard to work with or if they just aren't seen as a serious contender in the market so the vendors don't want to put the money out. Well heres to hoping they at least come out with their own stuff.
     
  9. Jan 4, 2006 #69 of 291
    rainwater

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    It probably just means TiVo has another partner for their next gen SA Tivos.
     
  10. Jan 4, 2006 #70 of 291
    davezatz

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    Here's an interesting nugget that just came out... Akimbo has a new box coming out this spring by RCA and will offer Movielink VOD on it. Now that REALLY interests me! I wonder if you have to pay the monthly Akimbo fee if all you want is to "rent" current movies? Of course I'd gladly give that same money to TiVo if they offered it. All I want is a huge VOD library through a set-top box. Too much to ask for? In 2005 it was... maybe this is the year.
     
  11. Jan 4, 2006 #71 of 291
    TiVoPhish

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    I think it's definitely going to happen via Akimbo or Vongo/Microsoft or Apple or your cable provider. I know my local cable provider is rumored to be working on more VOD stuff (they already offer HBO on-demand for example). Lots of talks and technology going towards portable devices too. I think we're gonna see a lot of changes in 2006.
     
  12. Jan 4, 2006 #72 of 291
    Justin Thyme

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    If so, Great! Does that mean that Tivo can contract with Humax to build a DVR that uses their DirecTv reciever technology? Can a third party really control navigation of the carrier's network if their navigation UI must be "DirecTv approved"**?

    If DirecTv/News Corp is not subsidising this product, I'd be very surprized. Surely their IP and at least low level software is being used for interactions with their network.

    I really doubt they could make it work with "any carrier", since to interoperate with Cable companies would require not Humax software, but the OpenCable software platform.

    It will be interesting when third parties will be allowed to build navigation devices that can be used with any carrier's network, and where the carrier is not entitled to dictate what form of navigation software is used. We won't be there until the satellite companies are reqired to comply with the 1996 law saying that ALL carriers must provide access to their networks to third party navigation devices. Only Cableco's are being forced to do so now. Satellite companies have enjoyed a decade long waiver, and have used it to implement vertical monopoly feifdoms

    ** (source- the release quote on Dave's site referenced above)
     
  13. Jan 4, 2006 #73 of 291
    Publius

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    Interesting that TiVo is not having a press event at CES (at least it's not on their website). Could this be because they would rather release any new surprises after Apple launches their TiVo competitor to slow the Apple momentum in this space?

    That of course presumes that the new Mac Mini will offer PVR capabilities, but I think that strikes me as a fair assumption. If Microsoft can do it, why can't Apple?

    Thoughts? :cool:
     
  14. Jan 4, 2006 #74 of 291
    interactiveTV

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    You lobby more than Abramoff. Only CableCos got decades long true monopolies....no fair!!!

    And what's with XM and Sirius? Why can't I buy ANY receiver and use it with their service? I mean, what the hell!!! And open up the telematics market too! I hate BMW service. I want On Star! Stupid closed systems!

    Personally, I think we should lobby that all the digital switch-over analog funds be used to fund continued Tivo losses. That's only fair to Tivo shareholders. I'd go for it if you just stopped inserting that same old rant into posts, Justin.

    But back to CES: I'm still waiting for CC Tivo. I'd also like at least a 100 base T jack. Wireless doesn't cut it for transfers -- and up the CPU and RAM.

    Playing games on my Tivo is oh so much fun but without HD, who cares.

    _ITV
     
  15. Jan 4, 2006 #75 of 291
    ZeoTiVo

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    Apple already has a DVR of sorts for those that want to mess with SDKs but I think a DVR is not their focus and selling downloads is their focus. Of course Mac world will be the tell on that, but I would not look for a very polished off DVR.

    the lack of a known press event is rather weird though as TiVo should have a lot to talk about and I can not really think of any "surprises" from TiVo other than content download that would blunt what Apple wants to do with iTunes and video.

    and even if Mac shows off a DVR for the mini it would just generate more press on all the new DVR anouncements rather than take away from a dual tuner CC TiVo.
     
  16. Jan 4, 2006 #76 of 291
    DCIFRTHS

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    My thought is that I wonldn't even remotely consider a computer as a replacement for an HD dual tuner TiVo. I would just stick with my Scientific Atlanta dual tuner HD box.
     
  17. Jan 4, 2006 #77 of 291
    ZeoTiVo

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    Now that is something I would want the FCC to get their hands into more than the sat. TV providers :up:
    the CC prototype shown last year had an ethernet jack, it should be 100baseT as they can throttle the data as needed with a driver. of course a more powerful CPU and more RAM could negate the need to throttle anything and make the TiVo efficient and throwing video all over the place while even better games are being played
     
  18. Jan 4, 2006 #78 of 291
    MichaelK

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    dude- dont be so bitter- just read the press release. Humax made a generic device that content providers can license and put their menu system on top of. IT likely has embedded some kind of id so the Directv box knows it's allowed to transfer the files to it ovedr the usb port. Humax can make one for anyone that has USB ports on their STB's or even PC's (sounds like they might be trying to sell to movie download people too)

    Perhaps directv is subsidizing them- who knows. Do you think directv is also subsidizing the thomson device?

    Just read the thing yourself- here's some relevent quotes. Notice it says Humax made it and that they are looking for other content partners and that Directv is the FIRST (might be the only content provider but it's clear Human will build the things for nayone that wants.)



    Content providers and operators interested in discussing their specific needs with HUMAX USA can reach HUMAX USA's vice president of business development and strategic marketing, Tony Goncalves, at the company's Fort Lee, New Jersey Sales and Marketing Headquarters at 201.292.1890.
     
  19. Jan 4, 2006 #79 of 291
    MichaelK

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    another bit of tidbit- the tiawan model has ethernet on the back too although i'm not sure if it's 10 or 10/100. (do they even make 10 only devices anymore? might even be gigabit-LOL they slap that in all the dells dont they!)
     
  20. Jan 4, 2006 #80 of 291
    Revolutionary

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    Actually, the FCC instructed Sirius and XM to collaborate on a receiver 2.5 years ago. They continually claim that they are diligently working on it, but there's been no official progress. But the instruction was made: they have to open up.
     

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