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  1. Oct 8, 2012 #61 of 113
    DreadPirateRob

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    According to this, the max range of any ballistic missile that Pakistan is known to possess is 2,000 kilometers (although they have/are attempting to procure a missile with a range of 4,000 km).

    Given that the distance between Pakistan and the US is roughly 11,000 km, a counter-strike by Pakistan is not a concern.
     
  2. Oct 8, 2012 #62 of 113
    DevdogAZ

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    That will actually be a good test of the quality of the writers. If the "mystery" turns out to be exactly what they telegraphed in the pilot, then we'll have to conclude that they're pretty crappy. But if it turns out to be something surprising, that would be great.
     
  3. Oct 8, 2012 #63 of 113
    Idearat

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    I've been assuming that one or more of the impact points on Pakistan were the location(s) of their weapons. Wouldn't any first strike be targeted to reduce or eliminate the opportunity for retaliation?

    Perhaps the SEAL team was on the ground there to verify the location(s) for targeting. That might the reason for the one SEAL member saying they were a part of it.
     
  4. Oct 8, 2012 #64 of 113
    DreadPirateRob

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    One would think.

    But we don't know the true goal of the attack yet, so I don't think we can safely assume that was the location of the strike.
     
  5. Oct 8, 2012 #65 of 113
    Gerryex

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    I've watched all the episodes but will someone please refresh my memory. Why is the COB being kept behing bars. I know he does not agree with the captain but was that it? Or was there some specific act he did to be locked up?

    Thanks,
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  6. Oct 8, 2012 #66 of 113
    DevdogAZ

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    I think it's a combination of him not agreeing with the Captain's actions, and him supporting the actions of the guy who was about to kill some of the crew when the female lieutenant shot him. When she shot his guy and the Captain backed her, it created a clear rift between them and they couldn't afford to have him running free and potentially undermining the Captain or wreaking havoc.
     
  7. Oct 8, 2012 #67 of 113
    squint

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    Only if the country had a meaningful ability to strike back...
     
  8. Oct 8, 2012 #68 of 113
    Anchorman

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    What was the point of the Navy SEAL having Lt. Shepard "check his weapon" before the fight with the Russians? Was it just to give the writers a chance to demonstrate her proficiency with a weapon?

    Also, I read something from an owner of an AK-47 that claimed that the magazine shown during that sequence was empty. :eek: Anyone notice that?
     
  9. Oct 8, 2012 #69 of 113
    DevdogAZ

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    Since they had basically been ordered by the COB to kill her, I assumed they wanted to get her fingerprints on the weapon so they could concoct some kind of explanation of how she screwed up and shot herself. Either that, or it was just for intimidation purposes.
     
  10. Oct 8, 2012 #70 of 113
    TAsunder

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    That wasn't a SEAL, was it?
     
  11. Oct 8, 2012 #71 of 113
    DevdogAZ

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    I don't think so. I thought those guys were just enlisted sailors who were loyal to the COB.
     
  12. Oct 8, 2012 #72 of 113
    DreadPirateRob

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    Definitely not a SEAL. That was one of the two seamen who were guarding the COB, who basically ordered them to try and take her out if they had the chance. Those guys were also the ones who bugged out when the fighting started, so we've seen how courageous they are.
     
  13. Oct 8, 2012 #73 of 113
    stellie93

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    That's probably true, which always seemed weird to me. If the only country you can nuke is at your back door, what's the use in having a nuke? Same with Iran and Israel or N. and S. Korea. :confused:
     
  14. Oct 8, 2012 #74 of 113
    Rob Helmerichs

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    Well, nukes don't destroy the planet. They can barely take out a city. If Pakistan nuked Mumbai, there would probably be no physical repercussions to Pakistan.

    Until India nuked Islamabad in retaliation, of course.
     
  15. Oct 8, 2012 #75 of 113
    squint

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    It's usually as a deterrent. Pakistan can't match India's conventional forces so they developed nukes. Israel doesn't have the manpower or size to guarantee victory in a conventional war against multiple aggressors so it has nukes as a last resort.

    Countries don't need to have more nukes than their neighbors, just enough to hurt them badly enough that a victory would be a pyrrhic one.

    Iran probably wants them for sabre-rattling purposes in addition to the deterrent effect.

    Those kinds of goofs are quite frequent but I didn't see any AK-47s in the episode. Spetsnaz should be using AK-74s.
     
  16. Oct 8, 2012 #76 of 113
    DreadPirateRob

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    ...unless they were trying to pass themselves off as US special forces operators.... :)
     
  17. Oct 8, 2012 #77 of 113
    squint

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    Yeah, I mentioned that possibility earlier in this thread.
     
  18. Oct 8, 2012 #78 of 113
    Flop

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    Only if the surprise reasoning actually fits and makes sense. Too often TV show surprises are something out of left field that make little sense, and are just used to be a "surprise".
     
  19. Oct 8, 2012 #79 of 113
    DevdogAZ

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    Good point. It has to be both surprising and coherent.
     
  20. Oct 8, 2012 #80 of 113
    astrohip

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    And that's the kinda cheap story line that'll have me checking out of the Resort. It's tough to swallow those massive conspiracy theories. Too many people in the loop, and no way they pull that off.


    The nukes these subs carry are so much more powerful than what was tested back in Nevada. Again, no one is fishing off the east coast for a while. Or anything else. And you can't just skip over that. Well, they can.:rolleyes:
     

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