Kung Fu — Premiers 4/7/2021 on The CW — Spoilers

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  1. Rob Helmerichs

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    Although so far a couple of times people have commented on how good she is (and not in a "Wow, you're good, that's so cool!" way so much as a "What's up with that?" way). And a couple of times they've commented on how improbable her abilities are (e.g., the whole "floating on air" thing). It seems pretty clear to me that they're setting up the fact that she's better than she ought to be, and that there is some kind of magic involved. I also suspect the sword burning her wasn't because she wasn't worthy to touch it, but because she WAS...it didn't simply burn her but it marked her (when they translate the writing burned into her hand, that should be...interesting).
     
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  2. Pokemon_Dad

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    OK so the long story arc reminds me of....
    • the original Kung Fu (just for the show name, and the word Shaolin)
    • Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon: Sword of Destiny (because special sword)
    • plus any video game where you have to acquire several weapons to level up, lol.
    Then there's the Chinese-American and romance tropes galore, CW style.

    All in all, fun enough. And I stopped watching Debris two episodes ago without noticing.
     
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    They hadn't finished the pilot when they had to shut down in March 2020 for Covid, but had shot enough for a sizzle reel that sealed the deal anyway. Since then I'm sure Olivia Liang has gotten better, but she didn't know any martial arts before this, and whenever you can't see her face during any fight or tumble you can safely bet it's her stunt double Megan Hui.
     
  4. cheesesteak

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    It wasn't terrible. I'd watch Debris over this show, though.
     
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    I saw that and I could tell when it was Liang's stunt double.
    (I'm not faulting her for that. Just stating my observations.)
    I read that Liang has a dance background so they may be using the "Michelle Yeoh" method with her.


    I didn't miss that but I would prefer they not go down that road as again, the original show didn't have any real mysticism to it.

    Thinking about this some more, I guess my main complaint is that honestly, this show (so far) has very little tie to the original series other than the series name and the main character having Shaolin training.
    It could have been called, I don't know, "Chinatown" and there would be no difference required in the actual script.

    Also, I'm guessing that they're not going to touch the whole PRC/ROC issue with a ten foot pole.
     
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    Talk about a low bar!
     
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  7. Jeff_in_Bklyn

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    So, she is not going to walk the earth?
     
  8. Pokemon_Dad

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    Barefoot in torn dirty clothes? Hey, even a Shaolin has limits to how much she'll disappoint her tiger mom.
     
  9. JYoung

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    Caine wore shoes in the pilot and (I believe) the first season.
     
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    One and done! This was so bad I got a headache from ShakingMyHead too often!
     
  11. TonyTheTiger

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    I'm not sure how long I'll watch.

    The fight scenes weren't bad but the acting was dreadful. The family reunion scene was positively at middle-school-play level of competence!
     
  12. Steveknj

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    Came to say the same thing. Any resemblance to the 70s series is purely coincidental. I get this whole trend of updating series from the 1970s to modern times trend, but really, they could have just kept it similar to the original and used Asian actors, even if they decided that the main character was a woman (and in this day and age, showing how badly Asians were wronged back in those days is not a bad thing to show). This series just feels so typical. Modern Asian family, family issues, one Gay character who's afraid to come out to family stuck in their old traditional ways, all the cliches of modern TV drama set in what's supposed to be the Kung Fu story. I guess if your in the demo that this is aimed at and probably never saw the original, this might work for you. My 30 something son really liked it. But I'm going to tell him to watch the original if it's available somewhere. Yeah, I get the whole David Carradine controversy, but it was a different time in the 1970s and you can't rewrite history to how things are now.
     
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    It was on the H&I channel for a while, and will probably return there. The full boxed set of DVDs is over $60, which seems excessive. Just for a representative sample I recommend getting only the DVD of "Kung Fu: The Movie", which came out ten years later and co-starred Brandon Lee in his first credited acting role.
     
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    I knew it was a completely different setup than the original but I hoped it would be interesting. As with others, the acting was so bad, so high school play, that I don't know if I can keep watching it. I will try one more to see if they get things together.

    Not that it would make any difference but just FWIW, Ryan said he did come out to his parents, while Nicky was in China.
     
  15. JYoung

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    I wouldn't say that it's representative of the series.
    It's not terrible but the first season of the series was a lot better.
     
  16. Pokemon_Dad

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    On a continuum between ABC 1972 and CW 2021, the CBS 1986 TV movie represents the original series, no? Even if Mako was waving around some kind of magic amulet half the time, lol.
     
  17. JYoung

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    I consider it the beginning of the downward spiral that lead to "The Legend Continues".
    It's where David Carradine started getting real input into the franchise (as opposed to the original series where he got little) and I believe, very much to it's detriment.
     
  18. Pokemon_Dad

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    Good point.
     
  19. Steveknj

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    Finally finished E1 and I'm out. It's too cheesy, and just not really Kung Fu. It could have been called anything really. Just another use of an old TV or movie show name and a completely different series, using the name to capitalize on some sort of nostalgia. The end of the episode was so bad, with the girl declaring how perhaps it may have been "meant to be" that she found the sword and has these super powers now. Gag. It just feels more like a C level superhero movie than a deep thinking martial arts movie. Part (most) of the charm of the original was how Caine was trained and developed and how that influenced almost everything he did afterwards. Here's it's barely mentioned and the "weapons' and the bad guys are going to be the whole story.
     

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