Kid Nation as Season pass...second time it refuses to record

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  1. synch22

    synch22 Member

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    Anyone know what i can do to fix this?? I am running a Series 3 and this is maybe the fourth time something has been scheduled and it ignores the show? Its on season pass ranked #3, and says record all episodes.

    I am a 4 year tivo user never really noticed this issue.
     
  2. rainwater

    rainwater Active Member

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    What does the recording history say in the ToDo list? That is always the first place to look to see why a program didn't record.
     
  3. ZeoTiVo

    ZeoTiVo I can't explain

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    Kid's these days :)
     
  4. Okeemike

    Okeemike Tastes like lemons

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    I've watched both episodes. Trust me...TiVo is doing you a favor.
     
  5. d_anders

    d_anders Sr Legacy Member

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    Agreed. This is surreal/quasi reality television at its absolute lowest thus far.

    Parents and networks purposefully putting children in a real life twisted experiment/"lord of the flies" style situation for the purpose of entertainment and profit for others is arguably immoral. It's one thing as a fictional theatre or film production, it's another to create the environment and see what happens.

    Legal adults deciding to do shows like Big Brother is one thing, putting young children (who were likely encouraged by their parents) is another.

    The hype of this controversy is the only thing why people even know about it...which is probably part of the marketing plan...which seems to be even more sinister.

    As for the technical issue, because it could come up with any other show potentially, you need to review the recording history at the top of the TO-DO listing and determine what prevented a given program not to record.
     
  6. MickeS

    MickeS Active Member

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    Have you actually watched the show?
     
  7. mattack

    mattack Well-Known Member

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    I disagree, I really really enjoy this show.. and I don't even like kids.
     
  8. mattack

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    Unfortunately, it's nothing like lord of the flies.
     
  9. d_anders

    d_anders Sr Legacy Member

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    Yes, I saw the first show just to see what the fuss was about...

    And, yes, of course, it's not a literial interpretation of the lord of the flies, but some of the themes are the same in a contrived sort of manner. I've used the "lord of flies" comments based on similar reaction that have written concerns about the show. Just google it...I saw it too.

    Children trying to build a society without adults, grouped into segments...but of course has variants of survivor, big brother, etc....

    Parents actually signed waivers that have been stated as "may expose the minor to conditions that may cause serious bodily injury, illness, or death, including drowning, falls from heights, encounters with wild or domestic animals, sexually transmitted diseases, HIV and pregnancy."

    Minor conditions that may cause death.....for the sole purpose of being on a television show. Ok, Adults choosing this type of scenario for themselves...no issue. Parents putting their kids in this situation, having others getting entertained from their actual pain and struggles...unbelievable.

    It's not like a soccer game where kids compete and then get off the field. They lived, slept, ate, in this environment for weeks while the cameras rolled. If it got to be too much for some, where they allowed to leave sure...but the signed waivers allowed the footage to air...

    Are there a few moments when a few kids shine, sure, but it's the whole produced package that is the issue. If this was all acted and the kids did this as a job, with labor laws enforced, that would be one thing. But this was set as true "camp" like experience with specialists and doctors on the side (if needed), but some of the children's true pain and misery was exploited to produce a environment compelling for entertainment value.

    I'm not the only one that shares the same concern....and it's already had an impact. Some footage that critics have reviewed prior to airing has already been edited out, and additional screening is now occuring for the remaining episodes. You won't see it all now.

    In the end, if you find entertainment value is this stuff, so be it. I expressed my personal opinion...I've never really cared much in the past what was produced on tv...to each their own, people vote with the remote...but as a parent this touched a nerve.

    anyway, sorry to take if off forum purpose as it was more noted to why something didn't record.
     
  10. nrc

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    Much ado about nothing, I think. As it turns out it's not much more than summer camp. It's not like there are really no adults around.
     
  11. d_anders

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    Of course there were adults there. It was produced, shot, edited, by adults. They had specialists and doctors on the side.

    I was so disturbed by the show, I started reading on how the show was produced...anyway, if you don't get it or have the same concern, so be it. There are many like me...this show has just taken reality tv too far.
     
  12. Okeemike

    Okeemike Tastes like lemons

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    I think my biggest 'problem' (if you want to call it that) with the show is that I can't get over the fact that I think it's contrived. Like, the kids are coached in what they do. For example, last week, when the kids locked themselves in the chicken pen, while it may have been their own idea, something tells me that an 8 or 9 year old just wouldn't do that.

    Then again, I haven't missed an eipsode yet, so I'm a bit of a hypocrite.
     
  13. jtlytle

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    I disagreed with you completely!

    It is a great show and it helped kids learn more responsible and mature at early age and learn how to survive.
     
  14. justapixel

    justapixel Domestic Extremist Staff Member

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    Hello.

    From this point on, any comments discussing the show will be removed. Please answer his technical question about why the show didn't record.

    Any discussion about the television show can take place in the TV Talk area, where it belongs. Thank you.
     
  15. mattack

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    Well, there are supposedly safe rides that people have to sign waivers for that mention the possibility of death, and I believe often children/teens can get their parents to sign to allow them to go on them too.

    Even though I like the show, I actually DO think a lot of them are actors. I won't go so far as to say it's literally scripted, but some of those 'kids' sure used words and phrasing that seems to me to be very adult. I admit I can't think of any specific examples at the moment, but it's the same kind of criticism you often hear about movies with kids in them. I think that kid actors would be more exposed to "serious, adult" terminology and use of language, so they could be using words older than would be expected even without it being scripted.
     
  16. JimSpence

    JimSpence Just hangin'

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    Don't you hate it when the OP doesn't answer the question?

    However, the off topic talk probably scared him away.
     

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