Just Ordered a Bolt Vox to replace my defunct Roamio +

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  1. Ralph P.

    Ralph P. New Member

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    Greetings,

    My Roamio bit the dust so I ordered a Bolt Vox. I use Spectrum Cable with a Tuning Adapter. Can any one with a similar setup offer any insights as what I can expect? It arrives tomorrow and I am trying to get ahead of any stumbling blocks.

    Thanks in Advance.
     
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    TA Cisco or Mo?
     
  3. moveandstore

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    I'm about to get a tuning adapter for my Bolt tomorrow. I had one before, but it did not work. (probably was either not activated properly, or wasn't properly set up) I think that mine was a Cisco, since my cable card is a Cisco/SA. (I have Optimum since I live in NJ) I did not have a knowledgable person to help with the install, (had problems installing the cable card also). Anyway, make sure that you get someone on the phone who knows what they are doing. I had to escalate my situation by filing a complaint with the FCC. Three days later, someone who knew what they was doing. And some of my SD channels got moved over to SDV, that is why I need the TA. Once I get the box (which will be a two hour stand in line in the rain, since they only have a storefront office, and with social distancing, they will only take two customers in the store at a time), they will call me and help with the install, since that has to be activated as well.
     
  4. Ralph P.

    Ralph P. New Member

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    Greetings,

    Cisco

    I am set up. I already had the TA and CableCard and really just needed to have it paired with the new Bolt. After some shuffling I did get someone that was able to take care of it. I wouldn't say that she was fully versed in it but, knew enough to get the Card paired to the Bolt on my account. Probably 40 minutes or so on the phone. She was pleasant and patient.

    I replaced one of my two Minis with a Mini Vox and upgraded the other Mini to TE4. That all went off smoothly.

    Thanks!
     
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  5. Rose4uKY

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    Can I ask you a few questions? We have a Roamio Plus we've had since 2013. About a year ago we got a Vizio 4K Smart TV and we usually watch 4K content off our 4K Roku Ultra. I have been wanting a Bolt just cause it's 4K and the voice remote seemed cool. And I would rather watch stiff all through the Tivo using that remote but anyway we ordered the Bolt yesterday due to a good deal going on. We got $100 off plus life time for $249 it was $300 off. We got the same 6 tuner 1 TB in the Bolt. Tivo said we just take cable card out of the Roamio and stick it in the Bolt and we should be good to go if not we need to call Spectrum. We also were sent the tuning adapter thing and have to use it. We also have 2 Tivo Mini's but was told they can be updated in software to work with the Bolt. People are talking about Tivo Experience 4 did we already have that on our Roamio? Do you like the Bolt I know you only upgraded cause yours bit the dust but ours still works fine. We only did it cause we got ours for $199 and we have a 4K TV plus we were paying 14.99 for monthly now it's 9.99 or $300 off lifetime which we did and paid $249. I just hope we like it and it was worth it to upgrade.

    I do want an extra remote though so we each have our own and Amazon has it for $27 I kind of like the lux light up one but it's like $50. But anyway I would like to also know what to expect since we also have Spectrum with Tuning Adapter. Did Spectrum have to repair your card or did it just work when you stuck it in? And do you use the Voice feature much how is it? Does it work well?
     
  6. mdavej

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    Your card may work for 24 hours or so, then all your channels will slowly disappear if you don't call Spectrum to pair with the new Bolt. The tuning adapter will work the same way it did with your Roamio, assuming you connect it to the Bolt.

    Did your Roamio have Experience 4? Only you and Tivo would be able to answer that.

    I can't answer the voice question. I've never intentionally used it. Much easier for me to press a button.
     
  7. Rose4uKY

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    Thanks! So I will call Spectrum then to pair. Tivo said it would just work in the new box. I am not sure about Experience 4 because I remember so many people saying they didn't like it and many weren't going to upgrade but that was way back. And I am wanting to say ours may have updated and we have it and didn't notice much difference. I tried to go under settings I saw something that said Series 4 I think but wasn't sure if that was Experience or not. But do you like the Bolt? Yeah my husband said he won't use Voice I just want to try it. I have Alexa set up not just for when I want to pause sometimes I usually forget and it's easier to use the remote when it's right next to me.
     
  8. mdavej

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    I don't have a Bolt. But I did have Experience 4, Spectrum and cable card for years. The Bolt will work exactly the same as your Roamio except a tad faster at launching apps. Experience 4 is a hotly debated topic. I personally have no problem with it. Works pretty much the same as the old version minus a few features I never used to begin with.

    I have purposely not gotten a Bolt due to the expense, the overheating issues, the difficulty upgrading the hard drive and the weird shape not fitting in my AV rack. Not to mention the fact that my Roamios still work fine. I hate to replace perfectly good devices when I'm not getting any new features.

    The find voice useful only for searches, as it saves a lot of typing. I do voice searches on my Fire Sticks as well. Otherwise, I don't have any other such devices in my house. I did set up my mom's Alexa to dial 911 or whatever other number she yells if she has an accident. So that's pretty useful for her.
     
  9. Rose4uKY

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    Thanks! Our Roamio is fine too have had it since 2013 but we now have a 4K TV and I just wanted the Bolt for Prime and Netflix even though he used the 4K Roku Ultra and some say it's still better to watch through Roku but this will be easier for me. But the bolt was a $100 off now and either $5 off the monthly or $300 off the lifetime which we did so that is why we got it. And we're hoping to sell our Roamio. I asked my husband if it was goin to fit in our TV stand and he said yes I hope so. I'm gonna watch more you tube videos I watched one yesterday talking about TE4. So you had TE4 are you back to using TE3? And we have 2 mini's which we were told would have to have the updated software so we will have TE4 on the mini's too cause those aren't 4K TV's but if we had an extra remote we could do voice on that or is it only if you have a Vox Mini? Anyway thanks we should get our Bolt this weekend I hope we like it!
     
  10. mdavej

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    I'm still happily on TE4. The main complaints about TE3 are the lack of the vertical listing of programs coming up on a single channel ("Live Guide"), general dislike of thumbnails rather than text titles and the difficulty in transferring files to a computer.

    Yes, all your Minis need to be updated to TE4 to work with a Bolt running TE4. A new Vox remote should add voice to an old Mini as the Vox part is actually in the remote itself.

    I'm sure you'll like the Bolt just fine.
     
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  11. Rose4uKY

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    Thanks! I've had every Tivo since the beginning and I know we'll like it. I'm glad we didn't have to upgrade our 2 minis. We have one in our bedroom and I have another in my other bedroom/computer room where I sit every morning with my coffee and watch TV and hang on the computer. I told my husband he could have the light up remote but now I want one too. And then I could use the regular Vox remote that came with the bolt here in my office. I'd like to update our bedroom remote also the regular Vox remote is only $27 on Amazon the lux light up is like $6 cheaper on Amazon then from Tivo. I tried to get a discount on it from them since they were out of the regular Vox remote and they said no. But I didn't realize both are cheaper on Amazon. Ok so Vox is part of the remote so what is the main difference in having Mini Vox I guess faster maybe and just goes with the Bolt and Edge. I am glad we didn't have to get new mini's. Glad it's just software update.
     
  12. mdavej

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    The $27 one is the wrong one for your old Minis. You need this $34 version:
    https://www.amazon.com/TiVo-Remote-Upgrade-Roamio-C00301/dp/B07635R5JB/
     
  13. Rose4uKY

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    Oh I do? Well thanks for letting me know I didn't know. I just thought since we were told we have to update our old Minis that one would work. But I'm guessing we're just updating the software to get TE4 not the hardware so I need the remote with the Bluetooth dongle? I didn't think of that. Is their a light up one of that? Cause I'll probably get a new remote eventually in the bedroom it has an old mini also. Do the mini Vox come with remotes and are they ever on sale?
     
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  14. mdavej

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    The update will enable your old Minis to work your new Bolt and their original remotes. To work with the new Vox remote, the dongle is required. Only the new Mini Vox does not require a dongle. Those come with their own Vox remote.

    If you get the Lux (lighted remote), you have to buy the dongle separately, bringing the total price to $65.
    Shop TiVo Products | Buy TiVo EDGE, BOLT, Mini and more.

    I rarely see Mini's on sale. I've found the biggest savings by buying used or refurbished. I've never paid anywhere near full price for any Tivo hardware, and I've never bought any of it new.

    Before you go all in on voice control, you may want to use it on your Bolt for a while to see if it meets your expectations. You may also find that yelling at your Tivo in your bedroom at night may be detrimental to marital bliss.
     
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  15. Rose4uKY

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    So besides voice is their anything else different on the Vox remotes from what we have? I don't care about using Voice all the time but I just though since we we're getting the TE4 besides voice should we have updated remotes. Plus we only have one in the bedroom anyway and I would like to have an extra so we each have one on our night stand. But we don't have to have them. He's already getting the lightup for the family room cause we both have remotes now but price wise I was just trying to figure out if I should hold off on too many extra remotes and eventually get Mini Vox's. But anyway thanks for responding. I'll wait till we get the bolt like you said. It should be here Fri or Sat.
     
  16. mdavej

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    The Vox also has a Netflix button. But you can do the same on your old remote by making a numeric shortcut.
     
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    Oh really I didn't know that! I just called Tivo back again cause we did the liftetime and I was inquiring about extended warranty she said you only get this continual care on monthly or annual. I said I know the Bolt has been out for a long time is our model going to be an old one from like 2016 or have they made more since then cause I am reading about hard drive failures and the device getting hot and I was getting worried. She said yes this is different from the original model it had voice. Should I be concerned about HD failure and it getting too hot?
     
  18. mdavej

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    The failures and overheating are still valid concerns as far as I know. You should follow up in those other threads to see if Vox saw any cooling improvements.
     
  19. Rose4uKY

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    Ok Thanks!

    Thanks!
     
  20. KevTech

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    And a Skip button.
     

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