Just got a new HDTV, tivo doesn't look the same.

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by Shanezam203, Jul 28, 2007.

  1. Shanezam203

    Shanezam203 Member

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    That was the 1st thing I did. I plugged Cable IN to the TV, Tivo, and the Comcast DVR. I got a better picture on the Comcast Digital Cable Box, 2nd was the Tivo, and worst was the TV tuner.

    I figured the TV would have a poor tuner, but didn't think the Tivo box would.

    I understand the Tivo is analog, and the HD Tivo box is recommended for an HDTV.

    Thanks much for the info,
    Shane
     
  2. ZeoTiVo

    ZeoTiVo I can't explain

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    guys - you can nopt compare a digital cable box to a TiVo doing analog. The fuxzzy you see is interference on the cable signal, not a tuning issue.

    Just wait for the cable cards before you start comparing tuning to a digital cable box and trying to find digital channels and so forth.
     
  3. Shanezam203

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    I just plugged in the S video from the Tivo and it does seem to look better than the Yello RCA. I can live with this, till the price of the HD box comes down.
     
  4. Stanley Rohner

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    Probably not.

    The new HD TiVo is cheaper than the TiVo Series3 HD box. I really doubt they'll drop the price of the new one by Christmas. They're actually trying to make money ya know. The Series3 HD TiVo was way out there at $1000, that's why the price on it dropped.
     
  5. dianebrat

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    Shane, that's not a fair comparison at all, and that's what we're saying, the Comcast box is without a doubt grabbing the digital version of the channels in question as we said above.

    You can't compare the TV tuner, or the Tivo which are forced to use the lower quality analog signals to the Comcast box that is using the digital simulcast. The only way to get that digital signal in Tivo interface is the TivoHD or S3 (or for those in the right Comcast market, the upcoming Comcast DVR with Tivo software)

    And no, it's not obvious the box is doing that, we all have seen that because on an S3 you can easily see which channels are grabbing the analog vs digital simulcast.

    Diane
     
  6. richsadams

    richsadams Well-Known Member

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    Again, the S2 TiVo tuner is not poor...it is an analog not digital tuner.

    Pop for a TiVo HD now...even if it drops $100 between now and December (unlikely IMO), it'll be the best $20/mo. investment you can make to see a real difference on your new HD TV. :up:
     
  7. Chip Z

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    I don't think I can wait until the price comes down, but I agree that the S video does a better job.
     
  8. ZeoTiVo

    ZeoTiVo I can't explain

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    the price is not likely to come down anytime soon at all on the TiVo HD model. There may be a Christmas incentive but that is the first best hope of a price drop[ in my opinion.

    heck I am trying to hold out for a lifetime transfer offer but I am thinking that has only small chance as well. :(
     
  9. [NG]Owner

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    Tweaking the settings of the input on the TV that handles your Tivo will also make a world of difference.

    I'm running a Series 2 Tivo on a 72" Toshiba DLP. When I first hooked up Tivo, the picture was abominable. I thought I'd have to send the Tivo back. I'm glad I didn't. I got the picture to be acceptable. In general make it "softer" and darker.

    Is it HD? Is it digital? Nope, neither. But after having tweaked the input settings on the TV, the picture quality even on medium is acceptable.

    In a nutshell ... tweak the picture settings on the TVs Tivo input.

    [NG]Owner
     
  10. classicsat

    classicsat Astute User

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    Yes, but there likely won't be a night and day improvement.
     
  11. Shanezam203

    Shanezam203 Member

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    I have it now "acceptable." Much better than when I 1st plugged the Tivo in a few days ago, but now I adjusted the video output and the quality is a little better.

    I will try this for a while, and then decide if I need the HD box.

    Thanks much for all the help,
    Shane
     
  12. ZeoTiVo

    ZeoTiVo I can't explain

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    here is a link to a helpful article that talks about tweaking those settings and some DVDs that help and so forth

    http://tech.msn.com/howto/articlepcw.aspx?cp-documentid=5101912
     
  13. Shanezam203

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  14. TiVo Fool

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    Hmmm...

    TiVo DT now $99 (Tivo.com) THD $258 (Circuit City)

    :D
     
  15. BrianEWilliams

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    I was going to start my own thread about the TiVo picture quality issue on an HDTV, but then I found this one. I just bought an Envision 42" LCD from Staples, and now the TiVo output from some shows looks terrible. I am not talking about digital artifacts or low resolution. Those I can live with. The bright spots are clipped and washed out. I've turned down the backlight, which helps, but it has secondary picture effects I don't like.

    Shows like America's Got Talent really 'expose' this issue. The spotlights are so bright they look like the signal is getting clipped.

    Has anyone else seen this oversaturation of the bright areas when viewing SD TiVo output on an HTDTV.
     
  16. dianebrat

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    Please be at least somewhat accurate, the S3 was released at, and is still listed for $799. (not saying there haven't been and aren't better deals) But the S3 was never $1000

    Diane
     
  17. Jedi4141

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    Let me tell you about my SD experience. I started with a 50" Panasonic plasma with analog cable. PQ was ok. Finally got Comcast to come out and install digital cable w/their HD DVR. PQ on all my SD channels was in your words "acceptable". I did not have that dvr 5 weeks and upgraded to Tivo Series 3 with the same digital cable (I had two cable cards installed). SD looks great. I believe I was told that the upscaler the Tivo has is far superior and more expensive than what the cable company puts in their basic dvr.

    My point: The Series 3 (and Tivo HD) will most likely cure your ailing SD woes. If it doesn't, return it.
     

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