June 1st is not the end!!!

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A Fantastic Milestone - thank you to all involved.

 

that looks good - in fact, it looks fantastic - so forgive me on this question, but what is the next milestone?

 

Very impressive, well done

 

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Well done to all involved

 

A huge cheer to all those involved

 

I am literally beside myself with excitement over this. I can't bring myself to pay Virgin for anything at all... SWMBO is also thrilled to learn that TiVo will keep going.

Thanks to all for this, just wish I had the know-how to help...

 

Do you say 27 minutes because of the 30 minute buffer so if it's more you will never know....? Unless you mod yourself of course...

 

wow, time flies when you're having fun eh!

I just realised that the end is now just a month away

Hope everything is going well in 'alternate epg' land, and will throw my hat in the ring if you need any form of assistance re: testing as I have a spare box here... actually, i've realised i'll have two spare boxes in about 4 weeks time

 

A dumb question about the changeover to the Alternate EPG - apologies if this has already been covered. Are we expecting that the existing guide data will only extend as far as 23:59 on 31/5 or that it will roll forward the usual 7-14 days beyond 1/6? The latter would certainly make handover to the new EPG a bit easier.

 

Or indeed will there be a last minute extension in Tivo S1 service of another 3 or 4 months given that Virgin have not yet launched their 500MB model available to customers on all existing Virgin subscription price plans and even once they do this it will probably take Virgin at least another 2 or 3 months to install all Tivo S1 customers who want one.

Obviously we must take it as read that they do not give two hoots for those of us who do not live in Virgin Tivo land but surely they must want both an orderly and full as possible transfer for all Tivo S1 owners who live within their service area.

 

I cannot see TiVo investing time and effort to produce a one-off download chopping the guide data exactly at 31/5, so I would expect the last download on 31/5 to be the usual 7-14 days (hence lasting into part of June).

Any extension beyond 31/5 for any S1 TiVos (either all or a subset) is a pure pipe dream.



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That would be 7-21 days then.

Why do you say that.

They have been keen to do a lot of reaching out to S1 owners in Virgin Cable areas in order to sign them up to the new Tivo and/or the whole Virgin Media service for the first time. If they can't handle everyone who wants to convert to the Virgin Tivo at their existing package level level (which the 1TB Tivo product's contract does not cater for unlike the soon to be launched 500MB model) then why not show some good grace by carrying on until everyone who wants to switch to a Virgin Tivo has actually done so.

Tivo have received a lot of critical feedback about shutting down the service so such a small concession is far from being totally improbable.

 

That depends on which channels you watch

From a business perspective I personally don't think it's worth the effort. All the low-hanging fruit S1 owners have already been picked and I can't see VM wanting to expend a lot of effort to try and persuade a few 100 at best (or even if a 1000!) laggard S1 owners - as a business their time is better spent at upgrading their existing customers or (even better) selling to new ones.

My personal feeling is VM are only doing the "upgrading" S1 owners thing at all due to the insistence of TiVo Inc in the first place, and would rather have not bothered.

(For sure they made a few sales on the back of it; I didn't say it wasn't worth their while - they wouldn't have done it at all if there was *no* money in it - but that they might have preferred to have not bothered with it.)


(No evidence to back this up - just my experience as a Business Analyst)

 

Anyone know what the upgrade offer is? I looked and as a bottom end subscriber I can upgrade *IF* I upgrade to the top of the line service (M TV to XL TV) and I pay an upgrade fee. Lost interest at that point and didn't persue it with the telesales lot. To be honest we don;t use the VM box we use Freesat so it's probably a lot cause anyway but wontered if anyone had got any "discount" through being a S1 owner?

Anyone asked VM and know better?

 

You are describing the existing offer that started in February.

However in "mid-May" (i.e. a few days time) Virgin will be launching a 500GB version of their Tivo available to subscribers on all existing levels of paying tv subscription package (i.e. all tv customers apart from the legacy free M package customers) for only a £49.95 upgrade fee plus £3 per month Tivo fee

You might find that offer a lot more compelling although as you appear to be a free M package customer you are still going to also have to pay an additional pay monthly fee on top of the £3 monthly Tivo fee to upgrade from M to the M+ package level.

See www.techradar.com/news/internet/virgin-media-to-offer-500gb-tivo-box-in-may-942026 for more information.

 

I'm interested in continuing the EPG as I have little interest in getting the VM alternative because I don't have any pay channels now. However, I might've missed the question & answer on this forum previously, but why is the "lifetime sub" no longer valid, please? Is it because TiVo is now in the hands of a different company, i.e. Virgin?

Thanks.

 

Thanks

To be honest £3 PCM plus "something" to go from M to M+ is probably too much to make me want to pay VM anything more. The Humax software is not a patch on Tivo but freesats cosing us nothing for the few HD channels we get and the TV we watch.

 

Yes in my opinion you have it right.

Namely Tivo sold the rights to use their brand name and software in the UK to Virgin and Virgin have demanded that Tivo is no longer supported for any other tv viewing platforms than its new Virgin Tivo box.

Obviously the Tivo S1 UK's support of Sky, Freeview and Freesat then had to be closed down as that was a Tivo that supported Virgin's main opposition and the S1's support of Virgin had to be closed down because that prevented you from paying Virgin again each month for something you thought you already had (i.e. a Lifetime subscription to Tivo).

The We Love Virgin crew will be along shortly to say I have no proof but why else do they think that Tivo was happy to go on loyally supporting the old S1 for all those years only to pull the plug on us when they had signed a contract with someone else who a UK exclusive use of the brand that included the right to tell them to pull the plug on supporting old legacy boxes that supported rival tv platforms.

Also history shows that Tivo is basically a decent company that treats its customers fairly while Virgin (nee NTL and gobbling up along the way Telewest) is another devious and dirty company just like Sky who will stop at absolutely nothing in their quest to become top tv dog.