July 30th Update

Discussion in 'TiVo Stream 4K' started by Johnwashere, Jul 31, 2020 at 9:15 AM.

  1. ctjameson

    ctjameson New Member

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    Any luck on finding the PIN? I've tried a handful but gotten nowhere.
     
  2. cybergrimes

    cybergrimes Legend

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    No but I only tried out of curiosity, now that the audio can be programmed to the remote I don't have much need for it.
     
  3. ptcfast2

    ptcfast2 Member

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    FYI this update possibly breaks any form of surround sound audio decoding. I can't get surround sound to work anywhere anymore (it was working before the update) - only PCM audio in many apps.

    And instead of black flashes on Plex I get white ones now! Lovely.

    Coupled with locking us out of developer options (which was done on purpose - you have to go out of your way to do that in Android) I'm pretty pissed that they've taken such an obvious stance here.

    What the heck even is this device at this point? It's still failing to do what it's supposed to do, and it's like they just twist the knife with each update.
     
  4. spiderpumpkin

    spiderpumpkin Say no to Hydra!

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    My Tivo stick hasn't updated yet. I do have all the Tivo apps and Google Play Store unnstalled with adb so hopefully that stops auto system updates.
     
  5. osu1991

    osu1991 Well-Known Member

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    Tivopm reddit update.


    Code:
    https://www.reddit.com/r/Tivo/comments/i0xuz4/stream_4k_firmware_update_and_stream_app_updates/fzxtv63/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

    Hi All, we've confirmed that the PIN lock on Developer Options was added and should not have been. To be clear, we will be removing the PIN code access to developer options and returning the device to how it worked previously. We're working hard right now on providing a fix as quickly as we can but to set expectations I don't know when that will be yet. As soon as I have more details I will report back.
     
  6. ctjameson

    ctjameson New Member

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    Thank god. I literally just got another one for the bedroom today. This thing is a really killer STB replacement with TiviMate. I even have them set up to save recorded shows to the same network location so they're accessible from both boxes. I really didn't want to spend $150-200 for a Shield for that job and this thing really has the right amount of power to do what I need it to do.
     
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  7. riz

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    New Firmware Update to V9.0-4.1.6 and Dolby Atmos in apps status.

    Hi all, pretty decent little $50 Android TV box but no Dolby Atmos and other Dolby Digital issues that I wanted to point out and ask when it might be fixed.

    My setup: VIZIO 36" 5.1.4 Home Theater Sound System with Dolby Atmos | SB36514-G6, Tivo Stream 4K plugged directly into the Vizio HDMI input (this HDMI input bypasses my TV's ARC and other HDMI compatibility issues for a direct connection to the Vizio and what my Vizio soundbar supports). Default Audio settings (settings image below, also tried all sorts of combos nothing worked better). Audio Output results below were confirmed by my Vizio Remote which reports current audio format being used.

    On to the Audio Output observations (Updates in NEW in Firmware Update V9.0-4.1.6):
    • Netflix: Dolby Atmos in Dolby Digital Plus <<< NEW in Firmware Update V9.0-4.1.6 (was DD+ only prior to update)
    • HBO Max: Dolby Digital Plus <<< NEW in Firmware Update V9.0-4.1.6 (was DD only prior to update)
    • HuluTV: Dolby Digital Plus <<< NEW in Firmware Update V9.0-4.1.6 (was LPCM only prior to update)
    • YouTube Premium: Dolby Digital Plus <<< NEW in Firmware Update V9.0-4.1.6 (was LPCM only prior to update)
    • YouTube Movies (purchases from Google Play): Dolby Digital Plus <<< NEW in Firmware Update V9.0-4.1.6 (was LPCM only prior to update)
    • Disney Plus: Dolby Digital Plus
    • Amazon Prime Video: Dolby Digital Plus
    • Google Play Movies: Dolby Digital Plus
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    FYI: Disney+ supports Atmos on Xbox One X and my thread on this topic at these forums: Tivo Stream 4K Audio Output issues & observations...
     
    Last edited: Aug 5, 2020 at 5:42 PM
  8. Ramsey_Steve

    Ramsey_Steve New Member

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    Well I got super excited after installing this update, as my stream4k at last could see my 5ghz wifi. Apparently it was previously unable to access DFS channels (channels 100-140), which was a problem, as my ISP locks their routers on channel 100. Logged onto 5ghz, I could speed test at a decent 150mbs vs the crappy 30mbs on 2.4ghz..
    Alas, that only lasted for an hour or so. Now it's back to not seeing the 5ghz at all. Oh well, maybe with the next update.
     
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  9. gibby

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    Well this last update 4800 has fixed all my issues including all the remote control issues. My only problems now are features ...
    I am hoping that one day i can access my tivo through the stream device instead of having to launch the tivo app on my phone and chrome casting to the tv..
    and secondly would be storage...
    this device is great for summer homes or rooms that are not reachable like my pool aera. everyone that comes over says wow you have a tv in the pool aera. and I say "I love my Tivo Stick!!"
    My last issue would be privacy. Why Oh Why did they pick android... Google. the company that make all their money of our information.
    I know there are not a lot of Microsoft fans our there in the consumer field but Azure IOT is the most secure IOT product on the market and is guaranteed security updates for 10 Years !!!
     
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  10. Moey

    Moey New Member

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    Does anyone know if the TiVo stream automatically updates the firmware or do you have to manually update it?
    I unfortunately updated it and in addition to blocking developer options it also broke mpeg2ts decoding for tv streams I hope to god they release an update soon to fix this
     
  11. rczrider

    rczrider Active Member

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    Is there an Microsoft equivalent of Android?

    There's a reason nearly all of these products (including Amazon, who has an ongoing and bitter pissing contest with Google) uses Android: it's free (ish, there are licensing fees with the Play Store and a few others, IIRC). Because Amazon has their own app store, it may actually be free to them.
     
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  12. Lenonn

    Lenonn Member TCF Club

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    Why’d you buy a TiVo device if you want to get rid of the TiVo parts? Aren’t there other devices you could have purchased?
     
  13. shwru980r

    shwru980r Well-Known Member

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    Not sure why anyone is buying the Tivo Stream 4k when Amazon has the Fire TV Stick 4K on sale for $25.
     
  14. spiderpumpkin

    spiderpumpkin Say no to Hydra!

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    I've wanted an AndroidTV device for a while and I like being able to have a nice clean homescreen with only the things I want. I do have a Firestick but it has so much bloat that is hard to get rid of.
     
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  15. ptcfast2

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    I was attracted to the price, chipset, remote, and touted features. Unfortunately the device has failed to deliver on multiple fronts when it comes to basic functionality - delivering an audio and video signal to a connected display. With Android TV if I don't want to use the Tivo parts, I don't have to use them. That's what Android as an operating system is all about. Tivo locking away the only ways to make their device usable while they struggle to deliver half-baked firmware updates. Even with their admittance it was "accidental" there's no way that was not discussed internally as being added and either they didn't think the backlash would be as huge as it has been or they planned on adding it, decided to revert the decision, but that reversion never made it into the code. It's not just a "switch you flick" to disable this either as they had to go out of their way to do it.

    Either way, Developer Options is a necessary thing for any Android device...and even more so if you plan to make sure an app ya know...works with said device for Q&A purposes.

    Because this device was more capable and more adaptable. For the price it was a great deal for a good remote, Android TV, and perhaps some cool Tivo magic baked in to improve Android TV stuff. They definitely baked their "magic" in, but it's raw on the inside and burnt on the outside.
     
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  16. tigercat74

    tigercat74 Lets go Bengals!!!!!

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    As far as I know, the Fire Stick doesn’t have HBO Max, Peacock or Vudu. That is also why I moved away from Roku.
     
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  17. Akhaxton

    Akhaxton New Member

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    For me, because I like Android and despise FireOS.
     
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  18. keithg1964

    keithg1964 Ragonk

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    The ability to add an USB drive and move apps to/from it.
     
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  19. rczrider

    rczrider Active Member

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    I agree with this sentiment unless you know the differences. For my parents? Fire TV Stick 4K, hands down. There's nothing anyone can say that's going to convince me otherwise.

    There are advantages to the TS4K and if TiVo can get their act together and work out the firmware, it's a better buy at $50 for a lot of people. If you have to ask why, you probably won't appreciate the differences.
     
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  20. oscarfish

    oscarfish Active Member

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    Maybe I'd rather have Tivo and Google track all my viewing instead of Amazon ..
     
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