Journeyman Fans Please Vote

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  1. Nov 27, 2007 #81 of 155
    LoadStar

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    Not necessarily "wrong." Reporting it as news is just premature, that's all.

    The rumor is indeed as Mike repeated, that the foundation for a deal has been more or less reached and that they hoped that the strike would be over by Christmas. It's just a rumor right now that was conveyed by Deadline Hollywood Daily yesterday.

    The latest news is that both sides are being extremely reasonable, and that very productive talks continue. Unless one side or another does something extremely stupid, it's very possible that the rumor could indeed become true.
     
  2. Nov 27, 2007 #82 of 155
    bicker

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    Would McKidd accept a decrease down to a basic cable salary?
     
  3. Nov 27, 2007 #83 of 155
    dansee

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    Sherminator

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    If it would keep him in green, I would hope so.
     
  5. Nov 28, 2007 #85 of 155
    bicker

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    I bet many actors at McKidd's level would just look for another opportunity at their current level, and not accept a downgrade so blithely.
     
  6. Nov 28, 2007 #86 of 155
    appleye1

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    He ought to start looking at movies. He could make that transition easily.

    Thanks for bumping the thread Bicker. And happy upcoming YAMM! :up:
     
  7. Nov 28, 2007 #87 of 155
    Hersheytx

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    I have been a Neilsen family since 04. They called me up and asked if they could take the information from Tivo on my veiwing habits. Of course I said yes!
    I get something in the mail from them, but I have never had to fill anything out. In fact after the first interview and having to sign a release form sent in the mail, I have just watched TV.

    I do watch Journeyman. I love the show. I am even starting to write my snail mail letter to NBC in hopes they will keep this show. IF anything just so they can have a show to rerun on SCIFI in a couple of years.

    Its to good to give up now.
     
  8. Nov 28, 2007 #88 of 155
    Mike20878

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    I just remembered that I tried to sign up for that TiVo/Neilsen thing a while back but they turned me down because my wife worked for Comcast at the time.

    It wouldn't have helped Journeyman though as I watch it on my Comcast DVR so I can get it in HD. Unless Comcast reports viewer stats.
     
  9. Nov 28, 2007 #89 of 155
    mwhip

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    gschrock

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    I'm not overly convinced that that's not someone painting a rosy light on things.
    I see articles that say they're still far apart, and then in the next sentence say they might have it resolved soon. Although apparently another couple of weeks and a significantly larger portion of shows will have had to shut down, and that could provide some impetus.
     
  11. Nov 28, 2007 #91 of 155
    Johnny Dancing

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    I worked for Nielsen as an installer and then a manager of installers from 1984 to 1996. There is a national market of about 4000 metered homes and each major TV market has 400 randomly chosen metered households for local ratings. All TVs are wired to monitor all TV viewing on each TV in 5 minute increments. With these random samples, Nielsen claims to be +-5% accurate.

    During my time there, if a rep did not meter a vcr or tv in one of their households and was caught in an audit they were fired.

    The diaries are mostly used to gather demographic data and supplement the metered ratings and are sent out by the 100,000s. This why most people think this how nielsen gathers their ratings. With only a few 1000 nielsen home nationwide, your odds of being selected are about as great as winning the lottery. Also, Nielsen homes sign a confidentiality agreement so if you know a Nielsen family, there is a good chance they would not tell you.

    One of the reasons I left was new TVs and VCRs were getting harder and harder to hook up (picture in picture, 36 inch tubes, tiny VCRs with no room to work in), spending 15 - 20 hours over a few days wiring a Nielsen home and breaking a TV was becoming the norm. I got tired of telling angry Nielsen families "it will only take a few hours more and we fried your living room TV"

    I have been gone for 11 years so I don't know how they handle DVRs, plazma tvs etc, and I lost contact with all of my Nielsen friends but I am sure they take them into account because the Networks pay them to monitor all TV viewing in the sample homes and the networks know about DVRs. With DVRs, I suspect they buy a report of DVR viewing of the sample homes from the DVR providers.

    I think I left at the right time, I sure wouldn't want to crack open someones plazma tv or dvr to meter it. :)

    Anyway, Journeyman rocks.
     
  12. Nov 29, 2007 #92 of 155
    Kamakzie

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    Found this over at the NBC board.

    Journeyman Fans--

    NBC has decided to air the 12th episode ("Perfidia") on Wednesday, December 19th at ten o'clock. That means our 10th episode will air on Monday the 10th ("Home by Another Way"), the 11th will air on 17th ("The Hanged Man").

    The decision to air the 12th episode had a lot to do with the passion of our fans through SaveJourneyman.net, the online petition and letters and emails to NBC executives.

    And is it true you can vote once a day for the People's Choice Awards?

    There's still no news on our long term future, but we can promise you this: three terrific episodes inside of ten days. Oh, yeah, and you'll get some answers, too.

    Your comments and pro-active attempts to save the show are very much appreciated by me and my fellow Executive Producer Alex Graves, Kevin McKidd and the cast, writers and crew. But more importantly, it's working.

    But don't rest. We need you. We want a back nine--and beyond.

    Thanks again,

    Kevin Falls

    http://www.aint-it-cool-news.com/node/34919
     
  13. Nov 29, 2007 #93 of 155
    appleye1

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    Hooray!

    Keep voting and sending emails people! A back 9 and a little buzz and who knows?!
     
  14. Nov 29, 2007 #94 of 155
    bicker

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    Can we assume that the ordinal numbers provide count the pilot as episode #0? Otherwise, the three episodes, by my count, would be #11, #12 and #13.
     
  15. Nov 29, 2007 #95 of 155
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    After watching Bionic Woman last night it would be a crime for Journeyman not to be picked up....
     
  16. Nov 29, 2007 #96 of 155
    gschrock

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    I'd like to say thanks to Johnny Dancing for the insights into the Nielsen world. I never realized the devices they used to monitor were actually wired into the devices themselves. (I guess it makes sense in hindsight, but man, I don't know that I'd be willing for them to crack open something like my tv to do the necessary work.) It was an interesting read.
     
  17. Nov 29, 2007 #97 of 155
    ZooCaretaker

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    Thank you for the insight into how Nielsen works.

    I certainly don't mean to criticize, but I gotta ask ... if it was so difficult to hook up a new Nielsen family, how often was it done? If it wasn't done often, then Nielson would be monitoring a continually aging population - one that might not be as readily open to watching new types of shows like Journeyman.

    I also find it hard to believe that 4000 metered homes with only 400 in each market is sufficient to monitor the amount of options we currently (or even back in 1996) have available to watch. Equally difficult to fathom is the fact that as little as 400 participants could determine the life or death of a show.
     
  18. Nov 29, 2007 #98 of 155
    appleye1

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    It absolutely amazes me that you had to install the meters internally in the TVs or VCRs! I would have thought they would be set-top boxes. But that makes sense as the signal coming in via the cable wouldn't have any info about what was being watched, only the signal going from the tuner to the screen would have that info.

    You'd think it would be easier, and sometimes cheaper, to just lend the families new TVs and VCRs with the meters already installed.
     
  19. Nov 29, 2007 #99 of 155
    TAsunder

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    Wiring into a DVR for ratings would seem problematic to me. My Tivo is always on and the only way to know that I am not watching whatever it is tuned to is to know that my TV is off. If they tap into DVRs and it happens to have recorded something on spike last, does that mean I am considered to be watching spike for nearly 20 hours straight?

    It surely would have to be based on what you recorded. That is what tivo itself uses for aggregated data, right?
     
  20. DevdogAZ

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    IIRC, TiVo's data uses some sort of measurement that determines a show is being watched based on the last button press. I think they assume that a certain amount of time after a button is pressed, the TiVo is not being actively watched.
     

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