Journeyman 12/19/07 (S1E13) "Perfidia"

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  1. Dec 21, 2007 #81 of 185

    spikedavis New Member

    Nov 23, 2003


    Damn you nitpicker!!
  2. Dec 21, 2007 #82 of 185

    kmcorbett Member

    Dec 7, 2002
    Newton MA
    In cases of cloned cell phones, I've heard the carrier routing systems will pick one or the other but not both.

  3. Dec 21, 2007 #83 of 185

    spikedavis New Member

    Nov 23, 2003
    And now that we think about it-how does Livia have a working cell phone in 2007. Did she invest some money back in the 40s to pay for an AT&T Family Plan in the future?
  4. Dec 21, 2007 #84 of 185

    ZooCaretaker Lock up the lions

    May 22, 2007
    I think it's something Dan had to learn to control. He's being called .... like a phone call or a kid calling him...and he must answer, but at first he couldn't control when he went, so he was just wisked away. But as the show progressed, he knew when he was going and was able to duck away.... and in the final episodes we saw him taking a last drink before travelling .... and in the final scene, he was sitting in the chair all dressed and ready to go.

    So do we know when Dan got his iPhone? Did he have it the first time he leaped? If not, maybe... he got it with a brand new number so Livia was only calling his present self. Can't figure where Livia got the cel phone, though.

    I know it doesn't make sense to propose wild tangents any more but it's still fun to think. Langley said the numbers were dwindling to which Dan replied there was one other... It's been proposed that one can only journey during their lifetime. If Livia and Dan won't be seeing each other for a while, maybe Livia's present day life is ending. Now if there is a master puppeteer pulling all the strings, maybe they need the travelers to be alive in the present to be able to send them to the past or (in Livia's case) pull them to the future.

    It was a great ending with the perfect amount of questions answered and left open. The more I think about it, the more I realize how many potential plot twists there could have been -- but as it is right now, Journeyman was/is a phenomenal 13 episodes. I'd definately pay to see a movie and for the DVD! I'm gonna miss it.
  5. Dec 21, 2007 #85 of 185
    Sirius Black

    Sirius Black Grey Warden Reject

    Dec 26, 2001
    A City by...


    All I can say is what I've said before. The demise of the show is the fault of NBC for marketing it as a new Quantum Leap complete with a far more attractive 'Al'. But that's just not really a fair comparison. I will say that the ending had a very Quantum Leap acceptance of the mission type ending.
  6. Dec 21, 2007 #86 of 185

    speedcouch Geekneck

    Oct 23, 2003
    North Carolina
    No, I'd want to go back to a time before someone got the great idea for Who Wants to be a Millionaire or Survivor and change that timeline! Millionaire is really when TV took a turn for the worse IMHO...

    Great episode with an ending that could stand alone as a finale or left a few open-ended things for possible continuation.

    Couldn't help but believe the guy from Livermore is really a bad guy. Like he was the one who wants to use and manipulate the travelers. I think Dan sensed that too and that's why he didn't tell him about Livia.

    As to the person who pointed out Bristish shows go out while they still on top instead of waiting until they were just a shell of their former selves - Scrubs immediately came to mind for me.

    If this show falls to the wayside for more reality crap or something else appealing to the masses, I'm definitely on the BIH NBC wagon.

  7. Dec 21, 2007 #87 of 185
    Rob Helmerichs

    Rob Helmerichs I am Groot! TCF Club

    Oct 17, 2000
    It's funny, when it first aired these threads were FILLED with Quantum Leap comparisons that to me came completely out of left field. I never saw QL in this show, and I never saw QL in the marketing; I just saw it in people talking about the show. So if you're going to blame Quantum Leap for the show's demise, AFAIC it's not NBC's fault and it's not the show's fault, it's the fault of unimaginative people who have to say "X is the new Y" but faced with an X that's like nothing they've ever seen before.

    And I think that's the REAL problem: Like nothing they've ever seen before.
  8. Dec 21, 2007 #88 of 185

    dswallow Save the Moderatоr TCF Club

    Dec 3, 2000
    I wish they'd at least have been honest about it.

    "Who Wants to be a Millionaire in 40 Years?" would've been more accurate. Probably would've kept a lot of people from caring, too. ;)
  9. Dec 21, 2007 #89 of 185

    dswallow Save the Moderatоr TCF Club

    Dec 3, 2000
    There's certainly something more there. After all, Langley called Dan while Dan was in the past, too.
  10. Dec 21, 2007 #90 of 185

    Bierboy Seasoned gas passer

    Jun 12, 2004
    Fishers, IN
    So true, Rob. They had NO CLUE how to handle this show, promote it, or slot it.
  11. Dec 21, 2007 #91 of 185

    TonyTheTiger Pro Troll Magnet

    Dec 22, 2006
    Actually, Millionaire gave a check for the full amount. There was no installment plan for that show.

    ...and Millionaire was NOT when TV went downhill - it was down a long time before that show. It wasn't the show that sucked, it was the fact that ABC had to run it in EVERY free space they had until everyone was so sick of it. The show itself was actually pretty good.

    With the writers' strike and reality TV being cheap and not requiring writers, expect a LOT more of this in the coming months.
  12. Dec 21, 2007 #92 of 185

    goMO Member

    Dec 28, 2004
    I'd like to explore the Langley angle a little more. Is he on the outside but has "some" info? I didn't like that he couldn't tell Dan who was "pulling the strings". I think he knew but didn't say.
    Leaving that part unresolved kinda bugged me.
  13. Dec 21, 2007 #93 of 185

    Royster Beardy

    May 24, 2002
    Long Island, NY
    Are you telling me that the Million Dollars was *an annuity* and not a lump sum?

    /I wonder if those annuities are in my annuity block.
  14. Dec 21, 2007 #94 of 185

    danterner Not it!

    Mar 4, 2005
    Greenacres, FL
    Nice! :up:

    Funny, when Langley was talking to Dan in the elevator, mentioning how Dan was the last remaining journeyman (apparently unaware of Olivia), I thought to myself, "ah, so he's the last of the time lords!" :)
  15. Dec 21, 2007 #95 of 185

    tivogurl New Member

    Dec 15, 2004
    If you're going to nitpick that, explain how she had a cell phone in the first place. She looked like she had just gotten out of the shower and had no time to properly dress, but she has a phone?
  16. Dec 21, 2007 #96 of 185

    brettatk Thread Killer

    Oct 11, 2002

    You know what... you're right!! That's it, I'm never watching another new episode again!!!!
  17. Dec 21, 2007 #97 of 185

    Einselen ɹǝsn pǝɹǝʇsıƃǝɹ

    Apr 25, 2006
    Maybe she borrowed it from someone on the street. I mean we were watching Dan inside the building so anything could have happened with her hanging out there. Also maybe it was the other time traveler dude's phone and he gave it to her so they could be in contact.

    Shame she wasn't still in the shower when she traveled, gosh Dan couldn't you have gone just a few minutes earlier?

    Also I thought the same thing in regards to how does she have a phone and then the whole wouldn't it call both phones. I know when I have upgraded my phone and waiting for the new one to activate I actually could receive calls on the old one just not place them so someone called and both phones actually did ring.
  18. Dec 21, 2007 #98 of 185

    stiffi New Member

    Jun 13, 2006
    Charm City

    This is complete threadjacking, but who cares, the show's canceled (I mean has yet to be renewed)

    Anyway...Are there cell phone plans that give you 1 number but 2 or more phones? You know, so your cell line would work like your home line...someone calls and all your phones ring?
  19. Dec 21, 2007 #99 of 185

    Einselen ɹǝsn pǝɹǝʇsıƃǝɹ

    Apr 25, 2006
    I know it is possibly to have two lines into one phone. I am sure it probably could be possible to have two phones tied to one number it may take a little more advance programming within the system but the question would be why? Family plans let you share minutes and cell phones are portable so they are usually on the person. Not like you need to be tied in to a certain location as the traditional land lines.
  20. stiffi

    stiffi New Member

    Jun 13, 2006
    Charm City
    I was thinking of people who have NO land line. You could have two cell phones, and leave the second around the house so people could still reach you when you turn your phone off, or kill the battery.

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